From anirudh.asokan at gmail.com  Mon Nov  1 10:47:45 2010
From: anirudh.asokan at gmail.com (Anirudh Asokan)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 09:47:45 +0000
Subject: [BangPypers] Bridging in ubuntu,
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=S=Dz6+vcxyVmSGy=zq005Xtx-3ZTcWuvZREF1@mail.gmail.com>

Hey,
      This question is probably off topic by miles in this mail list..
Apologies in advance.

I couldnt find the solution to this problem on google(yes, its possible!).
So I thought you guys might know the solution.

The background -
1) I run Ubuntu linix (Karmic Koala)
2) I got bsnl internet, I use UTStarcom router (model no:WA3002G4)
3) I got apache2 installed. I got bridge-utils also installed

Im currently connected to internet using pppoe protocol(username and
password are stored in the router itself.) Here, when i run my ip address(11
7.192.x.x) in the address bar of my browser, it lands me in my router login
page.

I want my localhost page to appear when i run by ip address in my browser.
This way i can use my computer as a server for hosting my python programs. I
was told this was only possible if i connect to internet using bridge
protocol(here we login to the router from pc every time). I managed to do in
Win xp but not in Ubuntu.

Any help will be deeply appreciated



-- 
Cheers,
Anirudh Asokan

From dhananjay.nene at gmail.com  Tue Nov  2 06:56:44 2010
From: dhananjay.nene at gmail.com (Dhananjay Nene)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 11:26:44 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Access xml file form python script
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimv5f_RV50AxSaAuJCrwXWmzKoUQdQs=JYxaHh0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimv5f_RV50AxSaAuJCrwXWmzKoUQdQs=JYxaHh0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinZNPVLHB+URFG0HW2qvv+iHOM7pQpOmECPfJC5@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Avinash TM <avinashtm at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I have created a simple xml document i.e., preferences.xml as follows
>
> <?xml version="1.0"?>
> <object>
>  <object name="category" value="cricket">
>   <property name="title">Cricket</property>
>   <property name="subscribers">
>    <element name="avinash"/>
> <element name="prashant"/>
>   </property>
>  </object>
> </object>
>
>
> My favourite light weight tool for xml is minidom
http://docs.python.org/library/xml.dom.minidom.html
<http://docs.python.org/library/xml.dom.minidom.html>
http://www.boddie.org.uk/python/XML_intro.html

If you are needing simple xml parsing capabilities - it might just suffice
your needs and is built into python.



> Now i want to access the above data from a python script.
> I gone through some websites. But not getting actual idea.
> Should i use any data structures ( Lists, Dictionary, Tuples) in my python
> script.
> Can anybody help me
>
> Thanks & Regards
> Avinash
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



-- 
--------------------------------------------------------
blog: http://blog.dhananjaynene.com
twitter: http://twitter.com/dnene

From srp at ideadevice.com  Tue Nov  2 08:29:32 2010
From: srp at ideadevice.com (Saju Pillai)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 12:59:32 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] JOB: Idea Device - Startup hiring E #3, #4
Message-ID: <AANLkTimbGSX3_TzOhJy6_+C2=cbEaXoeZrN60zCnj_5M@mail.gmail.com>

Idea Device is a software product startup based out of IIM Bangalore. We
create Epsilon, a leading run book automation solution targeted at
 IT/OPS/KPO divisions of large enterprises. Our customers include a large
financial company, a global pharma giant and India's leading mobility
company.

Our stack is based on Python, JS/HTML & MySQL. We are looking to hire our
employee #3 & #4.  Please contact srp at ideadevice.com with your CV if you are
interested.

Idea Device: http://www.ideadevice.com
Run book automation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Run_Book_Automation

-srp
-- 
Idea Device
Automation Technologies
www.ideadevice.com
+91 9945196516

From shashidhar85 at gmail.com  Tue Nov  2 09:17:43 2010
From: shashidhar85 at gmail.com (Shashidhar P)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 13:47:43 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Access xml file form python script
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinZNPVLHB+URFG0HW2qvv+iHOM7pQpOmECPfJC5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimv5f_RV50AxSaAuJCrwXWmzKoUQdQs=JYxaHh0@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinZNPVLHB+URFG0HW2qvv+iHOM7pQpOmECPfJC5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinaPQk=TryJt7PHs93Kn3kN57XHjXAZjjRcfuyH@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Avinash,
There is simple python library for parsing the XML file, accessing data,
adding, editing.
It is LXML. You can refer its documentation at: http://codespeak.net/lxml/.

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Dhananjay Nene <dhananjay.nene at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Avinash TM <avinashtm at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I have created a simple xml document i.e., preferences.xml as follows
> >
> > <?xml version="1.0"?>
> > <object>
> >  <object name="category" value="cricket">
> >   <property name="title">Cricket</property>
> >   <property name="subscribers">
> >    <element name="avinash"/>
> > <element name="prashant"/>
> >   </property>
> >  </object>
> > </object>
> >
> >
> > My favourite light weight tool for xml is minidom
> http://docs.python.org/library/xml.dom.minidom.html
> <http://docs.python.org/library/xml.dom.minidom.html>
> http://www.boddie.org.uk/python/XML_intro.html
>
> If you are needing simple xml parsing capabilities - it might just suffice
> your needs and is built into python.
>
>
>
> > Now i want to access the above data from a python script.
> > I gone through some websites. But not getting actual idea.
> > Should i use any data structures ( Lists, Dictionary, Tuples) in my
> python
> > script.
> > Can anybody help me
> >
> > Thanks & Regards
> > Avinash
> > _______________________________________________
> > BangPypers mailing list
> > BangPypers at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> >
>
>
>
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------
> blog: http://blog.dhananjaynene.com
> twitter: http://twitter.com/dnene
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



-- 
Regards,

Shashidhar N.Paragonda
shashidhar85 at gmail.com
+919449073835

From jace at pobox.com  Tue Nov  2 11:41:26 2010
From: jace at pobox.com (Kiran Jonnalagadda)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 16:11:26 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Bridging in ubuntu,
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=S=Dz6+vcxyVmSGy=zq005Xtx-3ZTcWuvZREF1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=S=Dz6+vcxyVmSGy=zq005Xtx-3ZTcWuvZREF1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik4Se4Y6Q=_dYczma6YmhXPOzejQeNkXto+3Yfe@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Anirudh Asokan <anirudh.asokan at gmail.com>wrote:

> The background -
> 1) I run Ubuntu linix (Karmic Koala)
> 2) I got bsnl internet, I use UTStarcom router (model no:WA3002G4)
> 3) I got apache2 installed. I got bridge-utils also installed
>

Most basic routers have an option to forward all connections from the WAN
side to a local IP. Yours will too. Advanced routers can forward selected
ports.

Be warned that your desktop may not be configured securely for exposure to
the Internet. If you use Samba to share files on the LAN, for instance, you
will find your shared folders regularly littered with virus droppings -- if
your files haven't been copied or deleted, that is.

Kiran

From gopalakrishnan.subramani at gmail.com  Wed Nov  3 05:02:30 2010
From: gopalakrishnan.subramani at gmail.com (Gopalakrishnan Subramani)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 09:32:30 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Access xml file form python script
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinaPQk=TryJt7PHs93Kn3kN57XHjXAZjjRcfuyH@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimv5f_RV50AxSaAuJCrwXWmzKoUQdQs=JYxaHh0@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinZNPVLHB+URFG0HW2qvv+iHOM7pQpOmECPfJC5@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinaPQk=TryJt7PHs93Kn3kN57XHjXAZjjRcfuyH@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikNUCSXwxUtn5C=7AJi=RhH4UFoYqay0jFfvP5R@mail.gmail.com>

lxml also can be used along with the elementtree. Personally I liked the
element tree APIs and elegance.

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Shashidhar P <shashidhar85 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Avinash,
> There is simple python library for parsing the XML file, accessing data,
> adding, editing.
> It is LXML. You can refer its documentation at: http://codespeak.net/lxml/
> .
>
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Dhananjay Nene <dhananjay.nene at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Avinash TM <avinashtm at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > I have created a simple xml document i.e., preferences.xml as follows
> > >
> > > <?xml version="1.0"?>
> > > <object>
> > >  <object name="category" value="cricket">
> > >   <property name="title">Cricket</property>
> > >   <property name="subscribers">
> > >    <element name="avinash"/>
> > > <element name="prashant"/>
> > >   </property>
> > >  </object>
> > > </object>
> > >
> > >
> > > My favourite light weight tool for xml is minidom
> > http://docs.python.org/library/xml.dom.minidom.html
> > <http://docs.python.org/library/xml.dom.minidom.html>
> > http://www.boddie.org.uk/python/XML_intro.html
> >
> > If you are needing simple xml parsing capabilities - it might just
> suffice
> > your needs and is built into python.
> >
> >
> >
> > > Now i want to access the above data from a python script.
> > > I gone through some websites. But not getting actual idea.
> > > Should i use any data structures ( Lists, Dictionary, Tuples) in my
> > python
> > > script.
> > > Can anybody help me
> > >
> > > Thanks & Regards
> > > Avinash
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > BangPypers mailing list
> > > BangPypers at python.org
> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > --------------------------------------------------------
> > blog: http://blog.dhananjaynene.com
> > twitter: http://twitter.com/dnene
> > _______________________________________________
> > BangPypers mailing list
> > BangPypers at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Shashidhar N.Paragonda
> shashidhar85 at gmail.com
> +919449073835
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>

From vid at svaksha.com  Wed Nov  3 09:50:36 2010
From: vid at svaksha.com (=?UTF-8?B?4KWlIOCkuOCljeCkteCkleCljeCktyDgpaUg?=)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 14:35:36 +0545
Subject: [BangPypers] [x-post] [ANN] nonameconf.in
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=embdg6APZNB-d4d42zWEOaTStXbE4jVXO=d+5@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

As per subject, announcing http://nonameconf.in
Feel free to circulate the information.
-- 
Regards,
vid ? http://svaksha.com

From kadambari.devarajan at gmail.com  Wed Nov  3 14:24:34 2010
From: kadambari.devarajan at gmail.com (Kadambari Devarajan)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 18:54:34 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [ANN][X-Post] SciPy 2010 Call for Papers &
	Participation
Message-ID: <AANLkTinu2YJe-MnUfvoZthFdRV7UxoVFungkBDnvXYjx@mail.gmail.com>

==========================================
SciPy 2010 Call for Papers & Participation
==========================================

The second SciPy India Conference (scipy.in) will be held from December 13th
to 18th, 2010 at IIIT-Hyderabad (http://www.iiit.ac.in/).

Scipy.in is a conference providing opportunities to spread the use of the
Python programming language in the Scientific Computing community in India.
It provides a unique opportunity to interact with the "Who's who" of the
Python for Scientific Computing fraternity and learn, understand,
participate and contribute what is happening in the realms of Scientific
Computing using Python. Attendees of the conference and participants of the
sprints planned will be able to access and review the tools available, apart
from learning domain-specific applications and how the tools apply to a
plethora of application problems.

One of the goals of the conference is to combine education, engineering and
science with computing through the medium of Python and thereby extrapolate
on how powerful Scientific Computing is in various fields and among
different communities.

At this conference, novel applications and breakthroughs made in the pursuit
of science using Python are presented.  Attended by leading figures from
both academia and industry, it is an excellent opportunity to experience the
cutting edge of scientific software development.

The conference is followed by three days of tutorials and code sprints,
during which community experts provide training on several scientific Python
packages.

We invite you to take part by submitting a talk abstract or register as a
participant on the conference website at: http://scipy.in

Talk/Paper Submission
=====================

We solicit talks and accompanying papers (either formal academic or
magazine-style articles) that discuss topics regarding scientific computing
using Python, including applications, teaching, development and research.
 Papers are included in the peer-reviewed conference proceedings, published
online.

Please note that submissions primarily aimed at the promotion of a
commercial product or service will not be considered.

Important Dates
===============

Wednesday, Nov. 10: Abstracts Due
Monday, Nov. 15: Schedule announced
Sunday, Dec. 05: Proceedings paper submission due
Monday-Tuesday, Dec. 13-14: Conference
Wednesday-Friday, Dec. 15-17: Tutorials/Sprints
Saturday, Dec. 18: Sprints

The invited speakers
==================

* Fernando Perez -- PhD from University of Colorado.  Currently at the Helen
Wills Neuroscience Institute at the University of California, Berkeley.
 Original author and leader of the IPython project for interactive computing
(http://ipython.scipy.org), and member of the Python Software Foundation.

* John Hunter -- Ph.D. from University of Chicago.  Currently at Tradelink,
Inc. Chicago.  Original author and lead developer of the scientific
visualization package *matplotlib*.

* Perry Greenfield -- PhD, MIT. Currently at Space Telescope Science
Institute, Maryland, USA.  Has pioneered the use of Python in astronomy. He
and his group have developed PyRAF, numarray (the precursor to current numpy
capabilities), PyFITS and involved with the development of matplotlib.

* Prabhu Ramachandran -- PhD, IIT Madras.  Currently a faculty member at IIT
Bombay.  He is the co-founder of the Indian Linux User Group - Chennai
(ILUGC) and is the creator and lead developer of the
(FOSS-India-award-winning) Mayavi and TVTK Python packages (
http://code.enthought.com/projects/mayavi). Currently heads the FOSSEE (
http://fossee.in) project.

* St?fan van der Walt -- PhD, Stellenbosch University, SA. Currently a
researcher and lecturer in Applied Mathematics at Stellenbosch University.
 One of the developers of the NumPy and SciPy packages.

* Jarrod Millman -- Member of the SciPy steering committee and an active
contributor to both the NumPy and SciPy projects. He is the acting managing
director and the director of computing for UC Berkeley's Neuroscience
Institute, where he helped found the Neuroimaging in Python (NiPy) project.


* Satrajit Ghosh -- PhD Boston University.  Currently a faculty member of
the Speech and Hearing Biosciences and Technology program, Harvard-MIT. He
is managing the development of the NiPy project (http://nipy.org/nipype/).

* Asokan Pichai -- Head - Software Engineering at TalentSprint.
Consultant/Project manager for the Python group of the FOSSEE project. He
has immense experience in the field of training and instructional design.

Organizers
==========

* Jarrod Millman, Neuroscience Institute, UC Berkeley, USA (Conference
Co-Chair)
* Prabhu Ramachandran, Department of Aerospace Engineering, IIT Bombay,
India (Conference Co-Chair)
* FOSSEE Team
* EnhanceEdu Team

About Python
============

Python is an interpreted, interactive, object-oriented, open source,
extensible programming language. It combines clarity and readability, making
it an extremely powerful language that can be used for various applications
and problems.

Python is simple and easy to learn and apply. It offers an interactive
environment in which to explore procedural, functional and object oriented
approaches to problem solving. Its high level data structures, extensive
documentation and clear syntax make it an ideal first language, while the
large number of existing libraries make it suitable to tackle almost any
programming tasks. Its simplicity makes it easy to adapt to multiple
educational domains.

Python has several libraries that enable numeric and symbolic computing. It
also interfaces well with native codes in C,C++ and FORTRAN and has
excellent libraries for plotting/visualization. Python also provides
libraries for general purpose computing including generating user interfaces
and web development. These, coupled with it's interactive interpreter, make
Python an excellent language for Scientific Computing.

All these features when combined with their wide-ranging applications make
Python a perfect fit for use in Education, Industry and Scientific
Computing.

Registration Fees
===============

Registration, accommodation and food are offered at highly subsidized rates
for teachers and students, while registration and food will be offered to
all conference participants at subsidized rates. Details about the fees can
be found at: http://scipy.in/scipyin/2010/about/fees/

Publicity
========

The posters can be downloaded from the website :
http://scipy.in/scipyin/2010/publicity/

Contact
=======

Feel free to email the organizers at info at fossee.in

From kadambari.devarajan at gmail.com  Mon Nov  8 16:27:42 2010
From: kadambari.devarajan at gmail.com (Kadambari Devarajan)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 20:57:42 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [ANN][X-Post] Reminder - SciPy India 2010 Last 2 Days
	for Talk Abstracts
Message-ID: <AANLkTinQxMN863G7hOZSREGH7genF1gXaTwF193N9wSm@mail.gmail.com>

Please find below the call for papers and participation for the
scipy.inconference, for this year.  It would be wonderful if you could
speak on your
use of Python in any area of education/science/technology/engineering, or
participate in the conference and sprints.

Please also feel free to forward this to interested people. There will be
tutorials and sprints, apart from the conference days, and it would make a
big difference if you could spread the word at offices and institutions
using Python, apart from individuals.

You will need to register on the website and submit a talk abstract, if
interested. We will be happy to help in case you need any help with the
registration process.

==========================================
SciPy 2010 Call for Papers & Participation
==========================================

The second SciPy India Conference (scipy.in) will be held from December 13th
to 18th, 2010 at IIIT-Hyderabad (http://www.iiit.ac.in/).

Scipy.in is a conference providing opportunities to spread the use of the
Python programming language in the Scientific Computing community in India.
It provides a unique opportunity to interact with the "Who's who" of the
Python for Scientific Computing fraternity and learn, understand,
participate and contribute what is happening in the realms of Scientific
Computing using Python. Attendees of the conference and participants of the
sprints planned will be able to access and review the tools available, apart
from learning domain-specific applications and how the tools apply to a
plethora of application problems.

One of the goals of the conference is to combine education, engineering and
science with computing through the medium of Python and thereby extrapolate
on how powerful Scientific Computing is in various fields and among
different communities.

At this conference, novel applications and breakthroughs made in the pursuit
of science using Python are presented.  Attended by leading figures from
both academia and industry, it is an excellent opportunity to experience the
cutting edge of scientific software development.

The conference is followed by three days of tutorials and code sprints,
during which community experts provide training on several scientific Python
packages.

We invite you to take part by submitting a talk abstract or register as a
participant on the conference website at: http://scipy.in

Talk/Paper Submission
=====================

We solicit talks and accompanying papers (either formal academic or
magazine-style articles) that discuss topics regarding scientific computing
using Python, including applications, teaching, development and research.
 Papers are included in the peer-reviewed conference proceedings, published
online.

Please note that submissions primarily aimed at the promotion of a
commercial product or service will not be considered.

Important Dates
===============

Wednesday, Nov. 10: Abstracts Due
Monday, Nov. 15: Schedule announced
Sunday, Dec. 05: Proceedings paper submission due
Monday-Tuesday, Dec. 13-14: Conference
Wednesday-Friday, Dec. 15-17: Tutorials/Sprints
Saturday, Dec. 18: Sprints

The invited speakers
==================

* Fernando Perez -- PhD from University of Colorado.  Currently at the Helen
Wills Neuroscience Institute at the University of California, Berkeley.
 Original author and leader of the IPython project for interactive computing
(http://ipython.scipy.org), and member of the Python Software Foundation.

* John Hunter -- Ph.D. from University of Chicago.  Currently at Tradelink,
Inc. Chicago.  Original author and lead developer of the scientific
visualization package matplotlib.

* Perry Greenfield -- PhD, MIT. Currently at Space Telescope Science
Institute, Maryland, USA.  Has pioneered the use of Python in astronomy. He
and his group have developed PyRAF, numarray (the precursor to current numpy
capabilities), PyFITS and involved with the development of matplotlib.

* Prabhu Ramachandran -- PhD, IIT Madras.  Currently a faculty member at IIT
Bombay.  He is the co-founder of the Indian Linux User Group - Chennai
(ILUGC) and is the creator and lead developer of the
(FOSS-India-award-winning) Mayavi and TVTK Python packages (
http://code.enthought.com/projects/mayavi). Currently heads the FOSSEE (
http://fossee.in) project.

* St?fan van der Walt -- PhD, Stellenbosch University, SA. Currently a
researcher and lecturer in Applied Mathematics at Stellenbosch University.
 One of the developers of the NumPy and SciPy packages.

* Jarrod Millman -- Member of the SciPy steering committee and an active
contributor to both the NumPy and SciPy projects. He is the acting managing
director and the director of computing for UC Berkeley's Neuroscience
Institute, where he helped found the Neuroimaging in Python (NiPy) project.


* Satrajit Ghosh -- PhD Boston University.  Currently a faculty member of
the Speech and Hearing Biosciences and Technology program, Harvard-MIT. He
is managing the development of the NiPy project (http://nipy.org/nipype/).

* Asokan Pichai -- Head - Software Engineering at TalentSprint.
Consultant/Project manager for the Python group of the FOSSEE project. He
has immense experience in the field of training and instructional design.

Organizers
==========

* Jarrod Millman, Neuroscience Institute, UC Berkeley, USA (Conference
Co-Chair)
* Prabhu Ramachandran, Department of Aerospace Engineering, IIT Bombay,
India (Conference Co-Chair)
* FOSSEE Team
* EnhanceEdu Team

About Python
============

Python is an interpreted, interactive, object-oriented, open source,
extensible programming language. It combines clarity and readability, making
it an extremely powerful language that can be used for various applications
and problems.

Python is simple and easy to learn and apply. It offers an interactive
environment in which to explore procedural, functional and object oriented
approaches to problem solving. Its high level data structures, extensive
documentation and clear syntax make it an ideal first language, while the
large number of existing libraries make it suitable to tackle almost any
programming tasks. Its simplicity makes it easy to adapt to multiple
educational domains.

Python has several libraries that enable numeric and symbolic computing. It
also interfaces well with native codes in C,C++ and FORTRAN and has
excellent libraries for plotting/visualization. Python also provides
libraries for general purpose computing including generating user interfaces
and web development. These, coupled with it's interactive interpreter, make
Python an excellent language for Scientific Computing.

All these features when combined with their wide-ranging applications make
Python a perfect fit for use in Education, Industry and Scientific
Computing.

Registration Fees
===============

Registration, accommodation and food are offered at highly subsidized rates
for teachers and students, while registration and food will be offered to
all conference participants at subsidized rates. Details about the fees can
be found at: http://scipy.in/scipyin/2010/about/fees/

Publicity
========

The posters can be downloaded from the website :
http://scipy.in/scipyin/2010/publicity/

Contact
=======

Feel free to email the organizers at info at fossee.in

From gora at mimirtech.com  Sun Nov 14 20:04:56 2010
From: gora at mimirtech.com (Gora Mohanty)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 00:34:56 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Looking for recommendation for Python image-processing
	library
Message-ID: <AANLkTimXNJM7oNZw-M-kO59LDS-U-c_5HYvz7eComMD-@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

We have been happily using the Python Imaging
Library (PIL) in a Django image -processing project
for the last year or so. Of late, we have been running
into problems with support for newer .TIFF images.
The details of this are not important, but we are
seriously worried about the complete lack of response
to both multiple requests the email address listed for
PIL commercial support, and a message on the
mailing list asking for such (paid) support.

Given this, we have no option but to start looking at
other alternatives. ImageMagick is one possibility, and
indeed, we are already using it in some areas. I would
like to ask for people's opinions on other Python imaging
libraries, whether commercial or free. Thanks in advance
for your help.

Regards,
Gora

From orsenthil at gmail.com  Mon Nov 15 11:50:54 2010
From: orsenthil at gmail.com (Senthil Kumaran)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 18:50:54 +0800
Subject: [BangPypers] Looking for recommendation for Python
 image-processing library
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimXNJM7oNZw-M-kO59LDS-U-c_5HYvz7eComMD-@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimXNJM7oNZw-M-kO59LDS-U-c_5HYvz7eComMD-@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20101115105054.GB20767@rubuntu>

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 12:34:56AM +0530, Gora Mohanty wrote:
> Given this, we have no option but to start looking at
> other alternatives. ImageMagick is one possibility, and
> indeed, we are already using it in some areas. I would

I have heard positively of ImageMagick's python wrapper for doing
Image Processing where PIL is not sufficient. For most of my simple
needs PIL was enough. If ImageMagick has what you are looking for, I
think you should safely go for it. It well maintained when compared to
PIL and sure it has wealth options too

-- 
Senthil

From nagappan at gmail.com  Wed Nov 17 00:52:53 2010
From: nagappan at gmail.com (Nagappan Alagappan)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:52:53 -0800
Subject: [BangPypers] Fwd: Running large radio telescope software on top of
	PyPy and twisted
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimReWsTm9Oz0WEp6UOAk2oncWiQvjiCnM0mV9fb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimReWsTm9Oz0WEp6UOAk2oncWiQvjiCnM0mV9fb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikpfbSoh0q6F=9viHJUV-MbEoL8raSCa6OxHXf3@mail.gmail.com>

This should be of interest to PyPy followers as well as the scientific
python community

http://tinyurl.com/33sznhy


-- 
Linux Desktop (GUI Application) Testing Project -
http://ldtp.freedesktop.org
http://nagappanal.blogspot.com

From anish at sugarlabs.org  Wed Nov 17 06:39:47 2010
From: anish at sugarlabs.org (Anish Mangal)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 11:09:47 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Participate in a project that is changing kids' lives
	worldwide
Message-ID: <AANLkTimXO7_NGyZXCqnwpsRNPj3yDF08CnCtVhiC3dW0@mail.gmail.com>

== Introduction ==

The One Laptop Per Child (OLPC) and Sugarlabs initiatives are part of
a global effort which aims to provide every child with equal
opportunity for a quality education. Sugarlabs is an open source
project which develops and maintains the award winning Sugar Learning
Platform which is used daily by over two million kids; users of OLPC
laptops. For more information, log on to http://laptop.org and
http://sugarlabs.org.

The award-winning Sugar Learning Platform promotes collaborative
learning through Sugar Activities that encourage critical thinking,
the heart of a quality education. Designed from the ground up
especially for children, Sugar offers an alternative to traditional
?office-desktop? software.

Sugar is the core component of a worldwide effort, known as the One
Laptop Per Child (OLPC) project, which aims to provide every child
with equal opportunity for a quality education. Available in 25
languages, Sugar?s Activities are used every school day by two-million
children in more than forty countries. To know more about OLPC and
sugarlabs, visit http://laptop.org and http://sugarlabs.org.


== Call for participation ==

Seeking your participation if you are an enthusiastic:
- Software Developer OR
- Educator OR
- Interested in creating a huge positive social impact in the field of education

We, at Innovation For Social Change (IFSC) are making efforts to
involve the FOSS community in India into this worldwide effort. There
is immense potential for prospective community members to affect
changes that will benefit kids globally.

Sugar is an open-source project that is supported and maintained by a
very active community of developers spread worldwide. The focus of
sugar is not just developing and maintaining great code, but to
understand how it affects learning. Thus, the sugar community not only
comprises of software developers, but also people from an
education/teaching background.

In the past few months, thousands more OLPC laptops have been deployed
at various locations with the promise of millions more being deployed
in the coming few years. Thus, the need is greater than ever for the
sugar community to include more promising contributors.

== FAQ ==

Q. Do I have to pay anything initially? Will I get paid for my work?

The answer to the first question is No. Regarding receiving payment,
it entirely depends on the magnitude of an individual's contribution.
One could participate purely as a volunteer, or work
part-time/full-time committing a certain quantum of work and receive
payment accordingly. We are open to anyone and everyone who is willing
to contribute in any of these forms.

Q. What type of contributions are you looking for?

As previously mentioned, the sugar community is a mix of great
software developers and people from teaching and educational
backgrounds. We are looking for both.

Q. I'm interested! What next?

Drop us an e-mail at the below mentioned address.

Best Regards,
Innovation for Social Change; admin at innovation.org.in

From abpillai at gmail.com  Wed Nov 17 14:13:15 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 18:43:15 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Looking for recommendation for Python
 image-processing library
In-Reply-To: <20101115105054.GB20767@rubuntu>
References: <AANLkTimXNJM7oNZw-M-kO59LDS-U-c_5HYvz7eComMD-@mail.gmail.com>
	<20101115105054.GB20767@rubuntu>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimi=inxTNVAyFbV7tbL4izkap3Pp3JgPwLS+1_N@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Senthil Kumaran <orsenthil at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 12:34:56AM +0530, Gora Mohanty wrote:
> > Given this, we have no option but to start looking at
> > other alternatives. ImageMagick is one possibility, and
> > indeed, we are already using it in some areas. I would
>
> I have heard positively of ImageMagick's python wrapper for doing
> Image Processing where PIL is not sufficient. For most of my simple
> needs PIL was enough. If ImageMagick has what you are looking for, I
> think you should safely go for it. It well maintained when compared to
> PIL and sure it has wealth options too
>

Have you used scipy ndimage  ?

http://docs.scipy.org/doc/scipy/reference/tutorial/ndimage.html


> --
> Senthil
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



-- 
--Anand

From nitin.nitp at gmail.com  Thu Nov 18 05:05:41 2010
From: nitin.nitp at gmail.com (Nitin Kumar)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 20:05:41 -0800
Subject: [BangPypers] parsing directory and subdirecties
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=iwCZzxxQW0tt+Zm5=_1EXxL8rfndHzKiW6coq@mail.gmail.com>

hi all,

is there any simple way where a can parse into directory and subdirectories
to get the detail of files and count.

or do i need to use looping and other functionalities.

-- 
Nitin K

From pasokan at gmail.com  Thu Nov 18 05:56:33 2010
From: pasokan at gmail.com (Asokan Pichai)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 10:26:33 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] parsing directory and subdirecties
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=iwCZzxxQW0tt+Zm5=_1EXxL8rfndHzKiW6coq@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=iwCZzxxQW0tt+Zm5=_1EXxL8rfndHzKiW6coq@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinRyGg08Gm+WFH7NS5jEpTsYEGU81UjdSRogFfe@mail.gmail.com>

On 18 November 2010 09:35, Nitin Kumar <nitin.nitp at gmail.com> wrote:
> hi all,
>
> is there any simple way where a can parse into directory and subdirectories
> to get the detail of files and count.

Check if os.walk() is useful.
-- 
Asokan Pichai
*-------------------*
We will find a way. Or, make one. (Hannibal)

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Thu Nov 18 06:16:47 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 10:46:47 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] parsing directory and subdirecties
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinRyGg08Gm+WFH7NS5jEpTsYEGU81UjdSRogFfe@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=iwCZzxxQW0tt+Zm5=_1EXxL8rfndHzKiW6coq@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinRyGg08Gm+WFH7NS5jEpTsYEGU81UjdSRogFfe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1290057407.2117.326.camel@localhost>

On Thu, 2010-11-18 at 10:26 +0530, Asokan Pichai wrote:
> On 18 November 2010 09:35, Nitin Kumar <nitin.nitp at gmail.com> wrote:
> > hi all,
> >
> > is there any simple way where a can parse into directory and
> subdirectories
> > to get the detail of files and count.
> 
> Check if os.walk() is useful. 

but that is looping - which he does not want.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From orsenthil at gmail.com  Thu Nov 18 10:44:55 2010
From: orsenthil at gmail.com (Senthil Kumaran)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 17:44:55 +0800
Subject: [BangPypers] parsing directory and subdirecties
In-Reply-To: <1290057407.2117.326.camel@localhost>
References: <AANLkTi=iwCZzxxQW0tt+Zm5=_1EXxL8rfndHzKiW6coq@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinRyGg08Gm+WFH7NS5jEpTsYEGU81UjdSRogFfe@mail.gmail.com>
	<1290057407.2117.326.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <20101118094455.GA2002@rubuntu>

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:46:47AM +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> > 
> > Check if os.walk() is useful. 
> 
> but that is looping - which he does not want.

Then he can wrap python over 'find -type f |wc -l'
- Provided he is on POSIX and wants to just count the files.

os.system('find -type f |wc -l') 

OR

proc1 = subprocess.Popen(['find','-type','f'],stdout=subprocess.PIPE)
proc2 = subprocess.Popen(['wc','-l'],stdin=proc1.stdout,stdout=subprocess.PIPE)
out,err = proc2.communicate()

From gora at mimirtech.com  Thu Nov 18 15:32:54 2010
From: gora at mimirtech.com (Gora Mohanty)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 20:02:54 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Looking for recommendation for Python
 image-processing library
In-Reply-To: <20101115105054.GB20767@rubuntu>
References: <AANLkTimXNJM7oNZw-M-kO59LDS-U-c_5HYvz7eComMD-@mail.gmail.com>
	<20101115105054.GB20767@rubuntu>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinJ31kSDn1GiMUKr89nMk40zyxMKNtrLOnjsf61@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Senthil Kumaran <orsenthil at gmail.com> wrote:
[...]
> I have heard positively of ImageMagick's python wrapper for doing
> Image Processing where PIL is not sufficient. For most of my simple
> needs PIL was enough. If ImageMagick has what you are looking for, I
> think you should safely go for it. It well maintained when compared to
> PIL and sure it has wealth options too
[...]

Thanks, ImageMagick is probably what we are going to go with.

Regards,
Gora

From gora at mimirtech.com  Thu Nov 18 15:40:06 2010
From: gora at mimirtech.com (Gora Mohanty)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 20:10:06 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Looking for recommendation for Python
 image-processing library
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimi=inxTNVAyFbV7tbL4izkap3Pp3JgPwLS+1_N@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimXNJM7oNZw-M-kO59LDS-U-c_5HYvz7eComMD-@mail.gmail.com>
	<20101115105054.GB20767@rubuntu>
	<AANLkTimi=inxTNVAyFbV7tbL4izkap3Pp3JgPwLS+1_N@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikw9q8-8pmRyuMQNdzt72_8H9ZGiwdxVw_HTqB0@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai
<abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:
[...]
> Have you used scipy ndimage ??
>
> http://docs.scipy.org/doc/scipy/reference/tutorial/ndimage.html
[...]

Thanks for the suggestion.

I will take a closer look at ndimage, but at first glance it looks like
it is geared more towards scientific / medical image processing.
Our needs are a little more mundane, e.g., colour-space conversion,
converting .TIFFs from 16 bits/channel to 8 bits/channel, changing
the compression scheme for .TIFFs, etc.

Regards,
Gora

From dhananjay.nene at gmail.com  Thu Nov 18 18:26:51 2010
From: dhananjay.nene at gmail.com (Dhananjay Nene)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 22:56:51 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] parsing directory and subdirecties
In-Reply-To: <1290057407.2117.326.camel@localhost>
References: <AANLkTi=iwCZzxxQW0tt+Zm5=_1EXxL8rfndHzKiW6coq@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinRyGg08Gm+WFH7NS5jEpTsYEGU81UjdSRogFfe@mail.gmail.com>
	<1290057407.2117.326.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimvtFd2+SOF4McP5ttK_gA6ai7YHnMLup9B9oWK@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>wrote:

> On Thu, 2010-11-18 at 10:26 +0530, Asokan Pichai wrote:
> > On 18 November 2010 09:35, Nitin Kumar <nitin.nitp at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > hi all,
> > >
> > > is there any simple way where a can parse into directory and
> > subdirectories
> > > to get the detail of files and count.
> >
> > Check if os.walk() is useful.
>
> but that is looping - which he does not want.
>

Am unclear by what specifically is the issue here with looping, but list
comprehensions can be quite useful (even though implicitly they use
iterators as do loops).
Something along the lines of

print list((dirpath, len(filenames)) for dirpath, dirnames, filenames in
os.walk('/home/user'))

> --
> regards
> Kenneth Gonsalves
>
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
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From learningpython at aol.com  Thu Nov 18 22:25:07 2010
From: learningpython at aol.com (learningpython at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 16:25:07 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [BangPypers] waiting for Third Party Applications in python
Message-ID: <8CD557E351B2E0F-BD4-2799E@Webmail-m109.sysops.aol.com>


 

 Hi Experts,

Step 1: I am using batch file/ Dos commands currently to call a third party appplication to publish a document. 
Step 2: As of now, i scheduled to run a second set of batch file leaving a long approximate time to allow third party to complete the above task where i get a dialog box, that it's done.

The dialog box lingers on (Modal dialog box) from third party application comes when i run step 1 above.

I have inherited these batch files. I would like to convert them into Python and i know a tiny little bit till now. 

My questions:

1. Can i call these DOS commands from python ? example please 
2. Is there a way, i can know that third pary application has thrown up a dialog box, so that i can wait in Python till that point and execute clean up commands 
like killing the application, renaming the document etc. 

Psuedocode:

execute dos commands 

wait ( until third party shows up dialog window) 

If ( Third party dialog) 
 run the enter command as "OK" is highlighted and only option. 

execute further commands 

call Another batch file .


Any help is appreciated.

Regards
-L






From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Fri Nov 19 04:48:55 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 09:18:55 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [commercial] web mobile developers wanted for remote
	work
Message-ID: <1290138535.2117.376.camel@localhost>

hi,

A company doing sales and service of it's products around India wants to
set up a portal to monitor it's work and optimise it's services. They
have agreed to make the project open source, and will pay developers to
develop it. The rates will be 'industry standard' (what ever that is).
The framework will be django/postgresql. Extensive use of GIS is also
contemplated and the company is committed to putting in some resources
to develop OSM in India. People with django skills, mobile application
development, design (css, html, js), and GIS are needed. Please contact
me offlist - both individuals or companies may contact.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From mandarvaze at gmail.com  Fri Nov 19 06:34:16 2010
From: mandarvaze at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?TWFuZGFyIFZhemUgLyDgpK7gpILgpKbgpL7gpLAg4KS14KSd4KWH?=)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 11:04:16 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] waiting for Third Party Applications in python
In-Reply-To: <8CD557E351B2E0F-BD4-2799E@Webmail-m109.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CD557E351B2E0F-BD4-2799E@Webmail-m109.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikuLxtCuL1YN7htLCC-3BqU+n42eqDOGO1a9tk-@mail.gmail.com>

> 1. Can i call these DOS commands from python ? example please
>

You can execute third party commands using os.system() - Details and example
here : http://docs.python.org/tutorial/stdlib.html
But generally it is used for starting commands that execute and return some
value.

To read input/output/error pipes -
http://docs.python.org/library/subprocess.html

2. Is there a way, i can know that third pary application has thrown up a
> dialog box, so that i can wait in Python till that point and execute clean
> up commands
> like killing the application, renaming the document etc.
>

I'm not sure if there is a way to interact with GUI application

-Mandar

From orsenthil at gmail.com  Fri Nov 19 07:50:51 2010
From: orsenthil at gmail.com (Senthil Kumaran)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:50:51 +0800
Subject: [BangPypers] waiting for Third Party Applications in python
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikuLxtCuL1YN7htLCC-3BqU+n42eqDOGO1a9tk-@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8CD557E351B2E0F-BD4-2799E@Webmail-m109.sysops.aol.com>
	<AANLkTikuLxtCuL1YN7htLCC-3BqU+n42eqDOGO1a9tk-@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20101119065051.GA1181@rubuntu>

On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:04:16AM +0530, Mandar Vaze / ????? ??? wrote:
> > 2. Is there a way, i can know that third pary application has thrown
> > up a dialog box, so that i can wait in Python till that point and
> > execute clean up commands like killing the application, renaming
> > the document etc.
> >
> 
> I'm not sure if there is a way to interact with GUI application

There is one called PywinAuto:
http://pywinauto.pbworks.com/w/page/9546216/FrontPage

-- 
Senthil

From noufal at gmail.com  Fri Nov 19 09:23:18 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 13:53:18 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] waiting for Third Party Applications in python
In-Reply-To: <20101119065051.GA1181@rubuntu> (Senthil Kumaran's message of
	"Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:50:51 +0800")
References: <8CD557E351B2E0F-BD4-2799E@Webmail-m109.sysops.aol.com>
	<AANLkTikuLxtCuL1YN7htLCC-3BqU+n42eqDOGO1a9tk-@mail.gmail.com>
	<20101119065051.GA1181@rubuntu>
Message-ID: <874obdhgcp.fsf@gmail.com>

On Fri, Nov 19 2010, Senthil Kumaran wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:04:16AM +0530, Mandar Vaze / ????? ??? wrote:
>> > 2. Is there a way, i can know that third pary application has thrown
>> > up a dialog box, so that i can wait in Python till that point and
>> > execute clean up commands like killing the application, renaming
>> > the document etc.
>> >
>> 
>> I'm not sure if there is a way to interact with GUI application
>
> There is one called PywinAuto:
> http://pywinauto.pbworks.com/w/page/9546216/FrontPage

There are a bunch of them but most rely either on cursor position or on
the widget hierarchies to get what you want to click on. 

I played with sendKeys, pywinauto, watsup and something else but unless
your application *is* very well behaved, it can be hard to "script the
GUI".


-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From vasudevan.in at gmail.com  Sat Nov 20 00:58:13 2010
From: vasudevan.in at gmail.com (Vasudevan N)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 15:58:13 -0800
Subject: [BangPypers] parsing directory and subdirecties
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=iwCZzxxQW0tt+Zm5=_1EXxL8rfndHzKiW6coq@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=iwCZzxxQW0tt+Zm5=_1EXxL8rfndHzKiW6coq@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimstVZ+nD_HHAveLKtDV14+riW0AkGGDCv98QvQ@mail.gmail.com>

The simplest way would be to use recursive calls.

Thanks,
Vasu

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Nitin Kumar <nitin.nitp at gmail.com> wrote:

> hi all,
>
> is there any simple way where a can parse into directory and subdirectories
> to get the detail of files and count.
>
> or do i need to use looping and other functionalities.
>
> --
> Nitin K
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>

From dhananjay.nene at gmail.com  Sat Nov 20 08:32:41 2010
From: dhananjay.nene at gmail.com (Dhananjay Nene)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:02:41 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] parsing directory and subdirecties
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimstVZ+nD_HHAveLKtDV14+riW0AkGGDCv98QvQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=iwCZzxxQW0tt+Zm5=_1EXxL8rfndHzKiW6coq@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimstVZ+nD_HHAveLKtDV14+riW0AkGGDCv98QvQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=Q+60G6HVa41jOFNLXr739X7969i_TWVx=W1ss@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 5:28 AM, Vasudevan N <vasudevan.in at gmail.com> wrote:

> The simplest way would be to use recursive calls.
>
Vasu,

a. That could still entail a loop on a files per directory basis
b. If you avoid the loop and recurse on a per file (eg by shaving the head
off the sequence and passing on the tail), there's no tail call optimization
to avoid a stack overflow.

Dhananjay

>
> Thanks,
> Vasu
>
> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Nitin Kumar <nitin.nitp at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > hi all,
> >
> > is there any simple way where a can parse into directory and
> subdirectories
> > to get the detail of files and count.
> >
> > or do i need to use looping and other functionalities.
> >
> > --
> > Nitin K
> > _______________________________________________
> > BangPypers mailing list
> > BangPypers at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> >
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



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From souri.istheone at gmail.com  Mon Nov 22 11:45:26 2010
From: souri.istheone at gmail.com (souri datta)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 16:15:26 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Python 2.3.4 and IPV6 compliance
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=fyrZo1VHJxe+WuvbZs7k6AxDoXwtRFesaPjkQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi ,
 I would like to know whether the packages urllib and urllib2 are ipv6
compliant or not?


>From this link http://bugs.python.org/issue1675455 , it is not very clear.

Can someone please clear my doubt?


Thanks in advance.

Souri

From orsenthil at gmail.com  Mon Nov 22 12:10:02 2010
From: orsenthil at gmail.com (Senthil Kumaran)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 19:10:02 +0800
Subject: [BangPypers] Python 2.3.4 and IPV6 compliance
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=fyrZo1VHJxe+WuvbZs7k6AxDoXwtRFesaPjkQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=fyrZo1VHJxe+WuvbZs7k6AxDoXwtRFesaPjkQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20101122111002.GA1840@rubuntu>

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 04:15:26PM +0530, souri datta wrote:
>  I would like to know whether the packages urllib and urllib2 are
>  ipv6 compliant or not?

Python 2.3.4 supports IPv6. By that, I mean, socket module will
recognize and talk to a IPv6 address.

But if you want to anything at the higher level like parsing a IPv6
URL, it is added only the much later versions of Python - 2.6 release.

> >From this link http://bugs.python.org/issue1675455 , it is not very clear.

This is an open bug. What this indicates is, IPv6 access on local
files and ftp access via IPv6 would fail. If you are going to do HTTP,
this bug should not affect you.

-- 
Senthil

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Tue Nov 23 12:05:39 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 16:35:39 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] converting utf to octal
Message-ID: <1290510339.2137.85.camel@localhost>

hi,

say I have an indic (tamil) string like ????. This is actually
represented by the following:
0x0ba8,0x0bbe,0x0ba9,0x0bcd. How can I convert the above string into
these characters - or at least into base 10 integers?
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From orsenthil at gmail.com  Tue Nov 23 12:21:41 2010
From: orsenthil at gmail.com (Senthil Kumaran)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 19:21:41 +0800
Subject: [BangPypers] converting utf to octal
In-Reply-To: <1290510339.2137.85.camel@localhost>
References: <1290510339.2137.85.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=B=m2a=v8wyjhpWb7oXYXkFaRDr002RC5zCG27@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> wrote:
> say I have an indic (tamil) string like ????. This is actually
> represented by the following:
> 0x0ba8,0x0bbe,0x0ba9,0x0bcd.

Under which encoding?

> How can I convert the above string into
> these characters - or at least into base 10 integers?

If you use utf-8 encoding, it goes like this:

# -*- coding: utf-8 -*-
str1 = u"????"
print repr(str1.encode('utf-8'))

# output:

'\xe0\xae\xa8\xe0\xae\xbe\xe0\xae\xa9\xe0\xaf\x8d'

You can try/test things here:
http://uthcode.codepad.org/oSPpyrzs

-- 
Senthil

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Tue Nov 23 12:42:20 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 17:12:20 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] converting utf to octal
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=B=m2a=v8wyjhpWb7oXYXkFaRDr002RC5zCG27@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1290510339.2137.85.camel@localhost>
	<AANLkTi=B=m2a=v8wyjhpWb7oXYXkFaRDr002RC5zCG27@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1290512540.2137.87.camel@localhost>

On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 19:21 +0800, Senthil Kumaran wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>
> wrote:
> > say I have an indic (tamil) string like ????. This is actually
> > represented by the following:
> > 0x0ba8,0x0bbe,0x0ba9,0x0bcd.
> 
> Under which encoding?

I am not sure - this was what the unicode chart gives
> 
> > How can I convert the above string into
> > these characters - or at least into base 10 integers?
> 
> If you use utf-8 encoding, it goes like this:
> 
> # -*- coding: utf-8 -*-
> str1 = u"????"
> print repr(str1.encode('utf-8'))
> 
> # output:
> 
> '\xe0\xae\xa8\xe0\xae\xbe\xe0\xae\xa9\xe0\xaf\x8d'

but this gives 12 groups - I require 4

-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From jaganadhg at gmail.com  Tue Nov 23 13:06:06 2010
From: jaganadhg at gmail.com (JAGANADH G)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 17:36:06 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] converting utf to octal
In-Reply-To: <1290510339.2137.85.camel@localhost>
References: <1290510339.2137.85.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimAUfTEgwdTtHHdMRpynvNZthotp4QRG=fRVb_U@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>wrote:

> hi,
>
> say I have an indic (tamil) string like ????. This is actually
> represented by the following:
> 0x0ba8,0x0bbe,0x0ba9,0x0bcd. How can I convert the above string into
> these characters - or at least into base 10 integers?
> --
>


Are you looking something similar to this
http://silpa.smc.org.in/CharDetails

-- 
**********************************
JAGANADH G
http://jaganadhg.freeflux.net/blog

From noufal at gmail.com  Tue Nov 23 13:38:48 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 18:08:48 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [Announcement] Training on "Extending Python using C"
Message-ID: <87fwuscizr.fsf@gmail.com>


Hello everyone,

        I've been working on a project to conduct public trainings on
technologies/applications that I use on a semi-daily basis (Emacs, Git,
Python etc.)

        As part of this, I'm organising my first training in
Bangalore. It's on extending Python using C. I have a blog post
detailing the course and with links to register at
http://nibrahim.net.in/2010/11/22/python_extension_training.html

Thanks        

-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in


From rmathews at gmail.com  Tue Nov 23 14:48:40 2010
From: rmathews at gmail.com (Roshan Mathews)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 19:18:40 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [Announcement] Training on "Extending Python using
	C"
In-Reply-To: <87fwuscizr.fsf@gmail.com>
References: <87fwuscizr.fsf@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik=B6DVniWFfNiBPvP+we07-GvrcJcN1Qt5sF==@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 18:08, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
> ? ? ? ?As part of this, I'm organising my first training in
> Bangalore. It's on extending Python using C. I have a blog post
> detailing the course and with links to register at
> http://nibrahim.net.in/2010/11/22/python_extension_training.html
>
Noufal,

This sounds fantastic.  I wish was in Bangalore (or able to travel to
Bangalore) to attend.  Do post slides, or any other material you
present later on.

All the best for your talks.

Roshan

-- 
http://about.me/rosh

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Wed Nov 24 03:38:30 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 08:08:30 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [Announcement] Training on "Extending Python using
 C"
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik=B6DVniWFfNiBPvP+we07-GvrcJcN1Qt5sF==@mail.gmail.com>
References: <87fwuscizr.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik=B6DVniWFfNiBPvP+we07-GvrcJcN1Qt5sF==@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1290566310.2137.102.camel@localhost>

On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 19:18 +0530, Roshan Mathews wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 18:08, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >        As part of this, I'm organising my first training in
> > Bangalore. It's on extending Python using C. I have a blog post
> > detailing the course and with links to register at
> > http://nibrahim.net.in/2010/11/22/python_extension_training.html
> >
> Noufal,
> 
> This sounds fantastic.  I wish was in Bangalore (or able to travel to
> Bangalore) to attend.  Do post slides, or any other material you
> present later on. 

did you check out the link?
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From rmathews at gmail.com  Wed Nov 24 03:56:25 2010
From: rmathews at gmail.com (Roshan Mathews)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 08:26:25 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [Announcement] Training on "Extending Python using
	C"
In-Reply-To: <1290566310.2137.102.camel@localhost>
References: <87fwuscizr.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik=B6DVniWFfNiBPvP+we07-GvrcJcN1Qt5sF==@mail.gmail.com>
	<1290566310.2137.102.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimGY-woJxuWECHckpC64mb0t4At97pJB8X_rN8i@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 08:08, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 19:18 +0530, Roshan Mathews wrote:
>> This sounds fantastic. ?I wish was in Bangalore (or able to travel to
>> Bangalore) to attend. ?Do post slides, or any other material you
>> present later on.
>
> did you check out the link?
>
Yes.  Didn't notice that it was a paid lecture till I saw the
registration page though.  But that's that.  Why is it relevant?


-- 
http://about.me/rosh

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Wed Nov 24 04:45:41 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 09:15:41 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [Announcement] Training on "Extending Python using
 C"
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimGY-woJxuWECHckpC64mb0t4At97pJB8X_rN8i@mail.gmail.com>
References: <87fwuscizr.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik=B6DVniWFfNiBPvP+we07-GvrcJcN1Qt5sF==@mail.gmail.com>
	<1290566310.2137.102.camel@localhost>
	<AANLkTimGY-woJxuWECHckpC64mb0t4At97pJB8X_rN8i@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1290570341.2137.115.camel@localhost>

On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 08:26 +0530, Roshan Mathews wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 08:08, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>
> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 19:18 +0530, Roshan Mathews wrote:
> >> This sounds fantastic.  I wish was in Bangalore (or able to travel
> to
> >> Bangalore) to attend.  Do post slides, or any other material you
> >> present later on.
> >
> > did you check out the link?
> >
> Yes.  Didn't notice that it was a paid lecture till I saw the
> registration page though.  But that's that.  Why is it relevant? 

well, if it is paid lecture, normally slides are only available to those
who pay. And anyway, having watched Noufal teaching python at last
year's conference, I would say his lectures would be worth every paisa.
We are desperately short of python programmers and we need more
initiatives like this to fill the gap - otherwise suits opt for lesser
languages because they are afraid they cannot get people to maintain
their code if the team they employ vanishes.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Wed Nov 24 04:51:35 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 09:21:35 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] converting utf to octal
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimAUfTEgwdTtHHdMRpynvNZthotp4QRG=fRVb_U@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1290510339.2137.85.camel@localhost>
	<AANLkTimAUfTEgwdTtHHdMRpynvNZthotp4QRG=fRVb_U@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1290570695.2137.122.camel@localhost>

On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 17:36 +0530, JAGANADH G wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
> <lawgon at au-kbc.org>wrote:
> 
> > hi,
> >
> > say I have an indic (tamil) string like ????. This is actually
> > represented by the following:
> > 0x0ba8,0x0bbe,0x0ba9,0x0bcd. How can I convert the above string into
> > these characters - or at least into base 10 integers?
> > --
> >
> 
> 
> Are you looking something similar to this
> http://silpa.smc.org.in/CharDetails 

something like that, but the code on that site is all thoroughly GPLed
and hence cannot be used. Actually the moment I saw the GPL notice, I
shut my eyes and closed the site. Unfortunately, before closing my eyes
I noticed that they import codecs - which is central to my solution. I
do not think I have violated the GPL by importing codecs - but am a bit
apprehensive about getting a legal notice. Anyway, what I wanted to do
is here:

http://bitbucket.org/lawgon/tamtrans/src/21197e0f1388/syllcount.py

<rant> why do people make useful code unusable by GPLing it? </rant>

-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From santrajan at gmail.com  Wed Nov 24 04:54:00 2010
From: santrajan at gmail.com (Santosh Rajan)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 09:24:00 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Random hacks of kindness 4th 5th Dec Bangalore
Message-ID: <AANLkTinh1B-5f3E8ZV7XCxzdrm=rnD=Oa5hRCLaupxM9@mail.gmail.com>

"On December 4th and 5th, 2010 Random Hacks of Kindness, in
collaboration with partners worldwide, is hosting its third
hackathon?a global gathering of hackers in many locations around the
world, coming together in real time for a marathon weekend of coding
around problems relating to natural disaster risk and response."

http://www.rhok.org/events/rhok-2/


-- 
http://hi.im/santosh

From noufal at gmail.com  Wed Nov 24 05:24:52 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 09:54:52 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [Announcement] Training on "Extending Python using
	C"
In-Reply-To: <1290570341.2137.115.camel@localhost> (Kenneth Gonsalves's
	message of "Wed, 24 Nov 2010 09:15:41 +0530")
References: <87fwuscizr.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik=B6DVniWFfNiBPvP+we07-GvrcJcN1Qt5sF==@mail.gmail.com>
	<1290566310.2137.102.camel@localhost>
	<AANLkTimGY-woJxuWECHckpC64mb0t4At97pJB8X_rN8i@mail.gmail.com>
	<1290570341.2137.115.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <877hg3bb6z.fsf@gmail.com>

On Wed, Nov 24 2010, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:


[...]

> well, if it is paid lecture, normally slides are only available to
> those who pay. And anyway, having watched Noufal teaching python at
> last year's conference, I would say his lectures would be worth every
> paisa.  We are desperately short of python programmers and we need
> more initiatives like this to fill the gap - otherwise suits opt for
> lesser languages because they are afraid they cannot get people to
> maintain their code if the team they employ vanishes.

Thank you for the endorsement Kenneth.

I considered making it a free thing but dropped the idea. Preparing
something complete with notes and stuff takes up a considerable amount
of time (as I've found out) and I simply cannot just do it in my free
time.

I've put my projects on hold to do this properly. I've even half built
an Emacs mode that will help in presenting the code. Designing and
testing all aspects of this course is pretty much my day job right now.


-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From rmathews at gmail.com  Wed Nov 24 05:36:33 2010
From: rmathews at gmail.com (Roshan Mathews)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 10:06:33 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [Announcement] Training on "Extending Python using
	C"
In-Reply-To: <877hg3bb6z.fsf@gmail.com>
References: <87fwuscizr.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik=B6DVniWFfNiBPvP+we07-GvrcJcN1Qt5sF==@mail.gmail.com>
	<1290566310.2137.102.camel@localhost>
	<AANLkTimGY-woJxuWECHckpC64mb0t4At97pJB8X_rN8i@mail.gmail.com>
	<1290570341.2137.115.camel@localhost> <877hg3bb6z.fsf@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimrcdfWuEf33yTwFYH968O+azSqQmHa4eUfKSZd@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 09:54, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
> I considered making it a free thing but dropped the idea. Preparing
> something complete with notes and stuff takes up a considerable amount
> of time (as I've found out) and I simply cannot just do it in my free
> time.
>
> I've put my projects on hold to do this properly. I've even half built
> an Emacs mode that will help in presenting the code. Designing and
> testing all aspects of this course is pretty much my day job right now.
>
Fwiw, I still think this is fantastic.  I don't think you should share
the notes for a paid talk (except maybe a teaser) unless you want to,
and I wouldn't have asked if I had realized it wasn't free.

Roshan


-- 
http://about.me/rosh

From abpillai at gmail.com  Wed Nov 24 08:31:40 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 13:01:40 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [Announcement] Training on "Extending Python using
	C"
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimrcdfWuEf33yTwFYH968O+azSqQmHa4eUfKSZd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <87fwuscizr.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik=B6DVniWFfNiBPvP+we07-GvrcJcN1Qt5sF==@mail.gmail.com>
	<1290566310.2137.102.camel@localhost>
	<AANLkTimGY-woJxuWECHckpC64mb0t4At97pJB8X_rN8i@mail.gmail.com>
	<1290570341.2137.115.camel@localhost> <877hg3bb6z.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimrcdfWuEf33yTwFYH968O+azSqQmHa4eUfKSZd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=bzV+z1JvetH5A5do9iGPLRnP9yF1zxaSCH9yL@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Roshan Mathews <rmathews at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 09:54, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I considered making it a free thing but dropped the idea. Preparing
> > something complete with notes and stuff takes up a considerable amount
> > of time (as I've found out) and I simply cannot just do it in my free
> > time.
> >
> > I've put my projects on hold to do this properly. I've even half built
> > an Emacs mode that will help in presenting the code. Designing and
> > testing all aspects of this course is pretty much my day job right now.
> >
> Fwiw, I still think this is fantastic.  I don't think you should share
> the notes for a paid talk (except maybe a teaser) unless you want to,
> and I wouldn't have asked if I had realized it wasn't free.
>

I see nothing wrong in Roshan asking for the material though
he might have missed it is a paid talk. He has a point even
if inadvertently.

IMHO, now a days, the right thing to do is to actually share
the material even if the actual talk is a paid one. People are paying
mainly for being in the class and getting taught by the speaker, not
only for the teaching material.

If the lecture is good, people will still come though the material
is free.

If not the whole material, then at least the code samples.

All the best for the talk.


> Roshan
>
>
> --
> http://about.me/rosh
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



-- 
--Anand

From venkat83 at gmail.com  Wed Nov 24 08:50:23 2010
From: venkat83 at gmail.com (Venkatraman S)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 13:20:23 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [Announcement] Training on "Extending Python using
	C"
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=bzV+z1JvetH5A5do9iGPLRnP9yF1zxaSCH9yL@mail.gmail.com>
References: <87fwuscizr.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik=B6DVniWFfNiBPvP+we07-GvrcJcN1Qt5sF==@mail.gmail.com>
	<1290566310.2137.102.camel@localhost>
	<AANLkTimGY-woJxuWECHckpC64mb0t4At97pJB8X_rN8i@mail.gmail.com>
	<1290570341.2137.115.camel@localhost> <877hg3bb6z.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimrcdfWuEf33yTwFYH968O+azSqQmHa4eUfKSZd@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=bzV+z1JvetH5A5do9iGPLRnP9yF1zxaSCH9yL@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin04BHmL1dyZdO+1g+wxoPoj-SFiODYw_2GD=pf@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <
abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> IMHO, now a days, the right thing to do is to actually share
> the material even if the actual talk is a paid one. People are paying
> mainly for being in the class and getting taught by the speaker, not
> only for the teaching material.
>
> If the lecture is good, people will still come though the material
> is free.
>

True. I dont think sharing the slides is going to do any harm in any case;
especially when the speaker is not known well; though its the speaker's
discretion
to share or not.

Actually, i attend most of the sessions/conferences only when the talk
agenda/slides
are available in advance.

-V-
http://twitter.com/venkasub

From noufal at gmail.com  Wed Nov 24 09:37:46 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 14:07:46 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [Announcement] Training on "Extending Python using
	C"
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin04BHmL1dyZdO+1g+wxoPoj-SFiODYw_2GD=pf@mail.gmail.com>
	(Venkatraman S.'s message of "Wed, 24 Nov 2010 13:20:23 +0530")
References: <87fwuscizr.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik=B6DVniWFfNiBPvP+we07-GvrcJcN1Qt5sF==@mail.gmail.com>
	<1290566310.2137.102.camel@localhost>
	<AANLkTimGY-woJxuWECHckpC64mb0t4At97pJB8X_rN8i@mail.gmail.com>
	<1290570341.2137.115.camel@localhost> <877hg3bb6z.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimrcdfWuEf33yTwFYH968O+azSqQmHa4eUfKSZd@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=bzV+z1JvetH5A5do9iGPLRnP9yF1zxaSCH9yL@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTin04BHmL1dyZdO+1g+wxoPoj-SFiODYw_2GD=pf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <877hg39kx1.fsf@gmail.com>

On Wed, Nov 24 2010, Venkatraman S wrote:


[...]

> True. I dont think sharing the slides is going to do any harm in any
> case; especially when the speaker is not known well; though its the
> speaker's discretion to share or not.
>
> Actually, i attend most of the sessions/conferences only when the talk
> agenda/slides are available in advance.

[...]

I haven't really decided. There's a mix of slides and notes. Some of it
will be online. I'm still undecided about how much.


-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From jace at pobox.com  Wed Nov 24 17:29:22 2010
From: jace at pobox.com (Kiran Jonnalagadda)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 21:59:22 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Django-based CMS recommendations?
Message-ID: <AANLkTik0DH=THZ6UiknQn3KoGWkNRd7Lg91HGi9poUna@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Does this list have a recommendation for a Django-based CMS? Or a review of
the one conveniently named "Django CMS"?

I'm looking for a CMS that is convenient to use over the web, has blogging
abilities, and is extensible the way Django is. Should be in Python for the
comfort factor.

I'm a long time Plone hacker and intimately familiar with its internals, but
find it too heavyweight for current needs. I've also hacked Zine, but it's
in need of a new maintainer as author Armin Ronacher's energies are now
focused on Flask, his new (and superb) app framework.

The Django architecture has its own issues, but is stable enough to not need
worrying about maintenance. So, Django-based CMS, anyone?

-- 
Kiran Jonnalagadda
http://hasgeek.in

From venkat83 at gmail.com  Wed Nov 24 17:35:25 2010
From: venkat83 at gmail.com (Venkatraman S)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 22:05:25 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Django-based CMS recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik0DH=THZ6UiknQn3KoGWkNRd7Lg91HGi9poUna@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik0DH=THZ6UiknQn3KoGWkNRd7Lg91HGi9poUna@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=wwLaq1UdjUE0horRwtYRBhSbmMuSQqG0XnjKB@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Kiran Jonnalagadda <jace at pobox.com> wrote:

> Does this list have a recommendation for a Django-based CMS? Or a review of
> the one conveniently named "Django CMS"?
>

Try http://djangopluggables.com/  for the download stats and other options.
If all you want is a simple blogging app then can write your own?
    or assemble together the various django-xxxxx apps?
    or try customizing Pinax?
    or try any of the above ones from django-pluggables?

-V-
http://twitter.com/venkasub

From ramdaz at gmail.com  Wed Nov 24 17:53:21 2010
From: ramdaz at gmail.com (Ramdas S)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 22:23:21 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Django-based CMS recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=wwLaq1UdjUE0horRwtYRBhSbmMuSQqG0XnjKB@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik0DH=THZ6UiknQn3KoGWkNRd7Lg91HGi9poUna@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=wwLaq1UdjUE0horRwtYRBhSbmMuSQqG0XnjKB@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Venkatraman S <venkat83 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Kiran Jonnalagadda <jace at pobox.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Does this list have a recommendation for a Django-based CMS? Or a review
> of
> > the one conveniently named "Django CMS"?
> >
>
> Try http://djangopluggables.com/  for the download stats and other
> options.
> If all you want is a simple blogging app then can write your own?
>    or assemble together the various django-xxxxx apps?
>    or try customizing Pinax?
>
customizing Pinax is not a great idea. Try writing one


>    or try any of the above ones from django-pluggables?
>
> -V-
> http://twitter.com/venkasub
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



-- 
Ramdas S
+91 9342 583 065

From gora at mimirtech.com  Wed Nov 24 17:58:45 2010
From: gora at mimirtech.com (Gora Mohanty)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 22:28:45 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Django-based CMS recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik0DH=THZ6UiknQn3KoGWkNRd7Lg91HGi9poUna@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik0DH=THZ6UiknQn3KoGWkNRd7Lg91HGi9poUna@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinYG-M0qfKdEfu4v7s=yGQs-nZ7o-6RZD=GKR5m@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Kiran Jonnalagadda <jace at pobox.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Does this list have a recommendation for a Django-based CMS? Or a review of
> the one conveniently named "Django CMS"?

We looked at django-cms, but went with page-cms, though this was also
partly because of client requirements. These days, I would recommend
feincms. Please see
http://pydanny.blogspot.com/2009/09/show-me-your-open-source-django-cms.html
for a blog article about how a NASA division picked feincms (django-cms was
the close, second choice).

> I'm looking for a CMS that is convenient to use over the web, has blogging
> abilities, and is extensible the way Django is. Should be in Python for the
> comfort factor.
[...]

It is probably best to use an external blogging application. There are
several choices here, but I would go with Mingus:
  https://github.com/montylounge/django-mingus
  http://blog.montylounge.com/2009/07/1/welcome/
  http://blog.montylounge.com/2009/09/24/apps-that-power-django-mingus/
One big advantage of Mingus is that it is a collection of Django applications,
and hence can easily be integrated into a Django project. Now, there is also
apparently some integration with feincms, though I have not tried out this
aspect: http://www.toolpart.hu/blog/2010/01/28/feincms-integration-mingus/

Regards,
Gora

From jace at pobox.com  Wed Nov 24 17:59:23 2010
From: jace at pobox.com (Kiran Jonnalagadda)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 22:29:23 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Django-based CMS recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=wwLaq1UdjUE0horRwtYRBhSbmMuSQqG0XnjKB@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik0DH=THZ6UiknQn3KoGWkNRd7Lg91HGi9poUna@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Venkatraman S <venkat83 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Try http://djangopluggables.com/  for the download stats and other
> options.
> If all you want is a simple blogging app then can write your own?
>    or assemble together the various django-xxxxx apps?
>    or try customizing Pinax?
>    or try any of the above ones from django-pluggables?
>

That's a good site, thanks. I wasn't aware of Pinax. The trouble with custom
code is that long term maintenance is expensive and, with smaller teams,
turns into a permanent "someday" task.

Kiran

From steve at lonetwin.net  Wed Nov 24 17:30:53 2010
From: steve at lonetwin.net (steve)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 22:00:53 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [Announcement] Training on "Extending Python using
 C"
In-Reply-To: <877hg39kx1.fsf@gmail.com>
References: <87fwuscizr.fsf@gmail.com>	<AANLkTik=B6DVniWFfNiBPvP+we07-GvrcJcN1Qt5sF==@mail.gmail.com>	<1290566310.2137.102.camel@localhost>	<AANLkTimGY-woJxuWECHckpC64mb0t4At97pJB8X_rN8i@mail.gmail.com>	<1290570341.2137.115.camel@localhost>
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On 11/24/2010 02:07 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 24 2010, Venkatraman S wrote:
>
>
> [...]
>
>>  True. I dont think sharing the slides is going to do any harm in any
>>  case; especially when the speaker is not known well; though its the
>>  speaker's discretion to share or not.
>>
>>  Actually, i attend most of the sessions/conferences only when the talk
>>  agenda/slides are available in advance.
>
> [...]
>
> I haven't really decided. There's a mix of slides and notes. Some of it
> will be online. I'm still undecided about how much.
>
>

Firstly, wish you the best with this !! Like KG mentioned, we could do with some 
more python programmers.

On the topic of slides/notes, IMHO, free (as in freedom) documents are good. My 
recommendation would be to make your slides/notes available (possibly for a fee) 
under a CC-BY-SA (and possibly NC) license. This might also help people who 
cannot/do not want to attend the training but would like to buy/download the 
courseware.

I understand completely the point about the time and effort it takes to create 
content (having conducted trainings myself) but that's a one time investment. 
Having free documents /might/ help you improve them via suggestions/patches from 
others.

just my opinion.

cheers,
- steve

From noufal at gmail.com  Wed Nov 24 18:06:23 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 22:36:23 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [Announcement] Training on "Extending Python using
	C"
In-Reply-To: <4CED3DBD.8090902@lonetwin.net> (steve@lonetwin.net's message of
	"Wed, 24 Nov 2010 22:00:53 +0530")
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	<1290566310.2137.102.camel@localhost>
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On Wed, Nov 24 2010, steve wrote:

[...]

> Firstly, wish you the best with this !! Like KG mentioned, we could do
> with some more python programmers.
>
> On the topic of slides/notes, IMHO, free (as in freedom) documents are
> good. My recommendation would be to make your slides/notes available
> (possibly for a fee) under a CC-BY-SA (and possibly NC) license. This
> might also help people who cannot/do not want to attend the training
> but would like to buy/download the courseware.
>
> I understand completely the point about the time and effort it takes
> to create content (having conducted trainings myself) but that's a one
> time investment. Having free documents /might/ help you improve them
> via suggestions/patches from others.

[...]

What I intended as a simple announcement has become a rather useful
thread on how to structure my material. 

Thanks for the suggestions. :)


-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From steve at lonetwin.net  Wed Nov 24 18:35:00 2010
From: steve at lonetwin.net (steve)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 23:05:00 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [Announcement] Training on "Extending Python using
 C"
In-Reply-To: <87d3pu7isw.fsf@gmail.com>
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On 11/24/2010 10:36 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 24 2010, steve wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>>  Firstly, wish you the best with this !! Like KG mentioned, we could do
>>  with some more python programmers.
>>
>>  On the topic of slides/notes, IMHO, free (as in freedom) documents are
>>  good. My recommendation would be to make your slides/notes available
>>  (possibly for a fee) under a CC-BY-SA (and possibly NC) license. This
>>  might also help people who cannot/do not want to attend the training
>>  but would like to buy/download the courseware.
>>
>>  I understand completely the point about the time and effort it takes
>>  to create content (having conducted trainings myself) but that's a one
>>  time investment. Having free documents /might/ help you improve them
>>  via suggestions/patches from others.
>
> [...]
>
> What I intended as a simple announcement has become a rather useful
> thread on how to structure my material.
>
> Thanks for the suggestions. :)
>

I remembered this only after I sent the mail, here is an example of what I was 
speaking of:

http://www.upfrontsystems.co.za/courses

I had used that to conduct one zope course myself (with explicit permission from 
the guys at Upfront). If you skim through the material you'll see that they make 
references to the handouts and code but that isn't available for download (but 
that does not make the content less useful).

cheers,
- steve

From venkat83 at gmail.com  Wed Nov 24 20:04:30 2010
From: venkat83 at gmail.com (Venkatraman S)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 00:34:30 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Django-based CMS recommendations?
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References: <AANLkTik0DH=THZ6UiknQn3KoGWkNRd7Lg91HGi9poUna@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 10:29 PM, Kiran Jonnalagadda <jace at pobox.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Venkatraman S <venkat83 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Try http://djangopluggables.com/  for the download stats and other
> > options.
> > If all you want is a simple blogging app then can write your own?
> >    or assemble together the various django-xxxxx apps?
> >    or try customizing Pinax?
> >    or try any of the above ones from django-pluggables?
> >
>
> That's a good site, thanks. I wasn't aware of Pinax. The trouble with
> custom
> code is that long term maintenance is expensive and, with smaller teams,
> turns into a permanent "someday" task.
>
>
Let me give you a word of caution : Pinax is a monster and sometimes cane
make you go mad.
By monster , i dont mean the hugeness, but how sometimes certain customizing
aspects of it
can cause involuntary hair loss. But, Pinax is a great solution when you
want to do anything
'social' quickly.

-V-
http://twitter.com/venkasub

From jace at pobox.com  Wed Nov 24 20:37:25 2010
From: jace at pobox.com (Kiran Jonnalagadda)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 01:07:25 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Django-based CMS recommendations?
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On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 12:34 AM, Venkatraman S <venkat83 at gmail.com> wrote:

> But, Pinax is a great solution when you
> want to do anything
> 'social' quickly.
>

I'm not after 'quickly' as much as 'maintainable even after you get bored
and move on'.

With Plone prior to 3.x, for instance, if you attempted customizations with
your own content types, or even any of the 3rd party types, you were
completely on your own for upgrades. APIs changed with every release, only
the core content types had tested upgrade paths, and third party content
type developers often gave up and quit maintaining their add-ons.

Two months ago I shut down a Zope site I had been maintaining since 2001
from Zope 2.3 to 2.7 because some of that code wouldn't work with Zope 2.8
and later, and Zope 2.7 will not work with Python 2.4 and later, and Python
2.3 no longer compiles on a modern Ubuntu release. I lost all the photos I
had been hosting there prior to moving to Flickr. Now I will happily pay
Flickr $25 a year to take away this maintenance pain.

Last year I started working on Zine. Among my patches was one that changed
storage of keywords from Python pickles to JSON because pickles are
dangerous (see above -- they die if code changes). Armin rejected this
because there was no upgrade path from pickle to JSON storage, and he never
got around to implementing a generic db upgrade solution, so I'm now
marooned in a year-old copy of code while Zine has received many patches
from others. Merging with trunk and upgrading my data is my headache, but I
have neither time nor money to outsource.

So this is the problem. I want to code special features, but want a base
platform where my code won't block upgrades. Django is nice* because the
base platform is reasonably stable and has a well defined extension
mechanism. If there's a CMS that lives up to these principles, that would be
fantastic.

* Django's interdependencies also remind me of Zope in the Python 2.1 days,
which is scary. I'm in love with Flask because it's so airy, and admire BFG
(now Pyramid) because it's battle-tested, but neither is suited for a CMS.

Kiran

From renukaprasadb at gmail.com  Wed Nov 24 20:52:30 2010
From: renukaprasadb at gmail.com (renuka prasad)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 01:22:30 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [Announcement] Training on "Extending Python using
	C"
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On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 10:00 PM, steve <steve at lonetwin.net> wrote:

> On 11/24/2010 02:07 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Nov 24 2010, Venkatraman S wrote:
>>
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>   True. I dont think sharing the slides is going to do any harm in any
>>>  case; especially when the speaker is not known well; though its the
>>>  speaker's discretion to share or not.
>>>
>>>  Actually, i attend most of the sessions/conferences only when the talk
>>>  agenda/slides are available in advance.
>>>
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> I haven't really decided. There's a mix of slides and notes. Some of it
>> will be online. I'm still undecided about how much.
>>
>>
>>
> Firstly, wish you the best with this !! Like KG mentioned, we could do with
> some more python programmers.
>
> On the topic of slides/notes, IMHO, free (as in freedom) documents are
> good. My recommendation would be to make your slides/notes available
> (possibly for a fee) under a CC-BY-SA (and possibly NC) license. This might
> also help people who cannot/do not want to attend the training but would
> like to buy/download the courseware.
>
> I understand completely the point about the time and effort it takes to
> create content (having conducted trainings myself) but that's a one time
> investment. Having free documents /might/ help you improve them via
> suggestions/patches from others.
>
> just my opinion.
>
>
+100

All Forms of Knowledge are born copyable . why we have to restrict from
anybody knowing from what we know ?

Knowledge is made of symbols irrespective of language ( mother tongue or
programming language ) language is made of symbols and all forms of symbols
are born copyable , restricting in any way will not be of any use

Any ways Keep in mind to put all your tutorials under proper license

Wish you all the best

> cheers,
> - steve
>
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



-- 
Renuka Prasad
9901945674

From navin.kabra at gmail.com  Thu Nov 25 03:08:32 2010
From: navin.kabra at gmail.com (Navin Kabra)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 07:38:32 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Django-based CMS recommendations?
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On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 12:34 AM, Venkatraman S <venkat83 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Let me give you a word of caution : Pinax is a monster and sometimes cane
> make you go mad.
> By monster , i dont mean the hugeness, but how sometimes certain
> customizing
> aspects of it
> can cause involuntary hair loss. But, Pinax is a great solution when you
> want to do anything
> 'social' quickly.
>


I agree with Venkat. Pinax is good if you want only what comes out of the
box. I would really not recommend it if you want to make your own
customizations. It has not yet reached the stage where (unlike Django) you
can do customizations without touching the base Pinax code.

Pinax is not yet at 1.x and that shows.

From larryt at winfirst.com  Thu Nov 25 05:06:07 2010
From: larryt at winfirst.com (larryt at winfirst.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 20:06:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [BangPypers] Django-based CMS recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin5Ez8N338WzpsvSCCe27MyLO1WqjKP3YtYQnW4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik0DH=THZ6UiknQn3KoGWkNRd7Lg91HGi9poUna@mail.gmail.com>
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	<AANLkTin5Ez8N338WzpsvSCCe27MyLO1WqjKP3YtYQnW4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20101124200607.BES21504@ms1.mc.surewest.net>

You might also look at django-lfc which has a user management section designed after Plone.  For a dedicated blog engine you might consider zine, dev.pocoo.org/projects/zine/, which is, however, not django basedr.  

-larry

---- Original message ----
>Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 22:29:23 +0530
>From: bangpypers-bounces+larryt=winfirst.com at python.org (on behalf of Kiran Jonnalagadda <jace at pobox.com>)
>Subject: Re: [BangPypers] Django-based CMS recommendations?  
>To: Bangalore Python Users Group - India <bangpypers at python.org>
>
>On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Venkatraman S <venkat83 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Try http://djangopluggables.com/  for the download stats and other
>> options.
>> If all you want is a simple blogging app then can write your own?
>>    or assemble together the various django-xxxxx apps?
>>    or try customizing Pinax?
>>    or try any of the above ones from django-pluggables?
>>
>
>That's a good site, thanks. I wasn't aware of Pinax. The trouble with custom
>code is that long term maintenance is expensive and, with smaller teams,
>turns into a permanent "someday" task.
>
>Kiran
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From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Thu Nov 25 07:13:06 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 11:43:06 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Django-based CMS recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik0DH=THZ6UiknQn3KoGWkNRd7Lg91HGi9poUna@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik0DH=THZ6UiknQn3KoGWkNRd7Lg91HGi9poUna@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1290665586.2137.162.camel@localhost>

On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 21:59 +0530, Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote:
> The Django architecture has its own issues, but is stable enough to
> not need
> worrying about maintenance. So, Django-based CMS, anyone? 

if you need multilingual - http://quadmulc.greenchilly.in

and a simple blog - http://blog.greenchilly.in
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Thu Nov 25 07:18:27 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 11:48:27 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [Announcement] Training on "Extending Python using
 C"
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim_h8CTJ-PZP9a9pfbZ+zTwAUZpw7ECbAnRbnGX@mail.gmail.com>
References: <87fwuscizr.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik=B6DVniWFfNiBPvP+we07-GvrcJcN1Qt5sF==@mail.gmail.com>
	<1290566310.2137.102.camel@localhost>
	<AANLkTimGY-woJxuWECHckpC64mb0t4At97pJB8X_rN8i@mail.gmail.com>
	<1290570341.2137.115.camel@localhost> <877hg3bb6z.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimrcdfWuEf33yTwFYH968O+azSqQmHa4eUfKSZd@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=bzV+z1JvetH5A5do9iGPLRnP9yF1zxaSCH9yL@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTin04BHmL1dyZdO+1g+wxoPoj-SFiODYw_2GD=pf@mail.gmail.com>
	<877hg39kx1.fsf@gmail.com> <4CED3DBD.8090902@lonetwin.net>
	<AANLkTim_h8CTJ-PZP9a9pfbZ+zTwAUZpw7ECbAnRbnGX@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1290665907.2137.163.camel@localhost>

On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 01:22 +0530, renuka prasad wrote:
> > just my opinion.
> >
> >
> +100 

this is not permissible - valid votes are -1,-0,+0 and +1
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From nitinkd at gmail.com  Thu Nov 25 08:48:52 2010
From: nitinkd at gmail.com (Nitin Dahra)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 13:18:52 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [Announcement] Training on "Extending Python using
	C"
In-Reply-To: <1290665907.2137.163.camel@localhost>
References: <87fwuscizr.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik=B6DVniWFfNiBPvP+we07-GvrcJcN1Qt5sF==@mail.gmail.com>
	<1290566310.2137.102.camel@localhost>
	<AANLkTimGY-woJxuWECHckpC64mb0t4At97pJB8X_rN8i@mail.gmail.com>
	<1290570341.2137.115.camel@localhost> <877hg3bb6z.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimrcdfWuEf33yTwFYH968O+azSqQmHa4eUfKSZd@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=bzV+z1JvetH5A5do9iGPLRnP9yF1zxaSCH9yL@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTin04BHmL1dyZdO+1g+wxoPoj-SFiODYw_2GD=pf@mail.gmail.com>
	<877hg39kx1.fsf@gmail.com> <4CED3DBD.8090902@lonetwin.net>
	<AANLkTim_h8CTJ-PZP9a9pfbZ+zTwAUZpw7ECbAnRbnGX@mail.gmail.com>
	<1290665907.2137.163.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikjC+eKhyyJNLqSvxfEbd2=vQMVHn+0qBbvY9Nt@mail.gmail.com>

Great initiative Noufal. All the best!

On 25 November 2010 11:48, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 01:22 +0530, renuka prasad wrote:
>> > just my opinion.
>> >
>> >
>> +100
>
> this is not permissible - valid votes are -1,-0,+0 and +1
> --
> regards
> Kenneth Gonsalves
>
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Thu Nov 25 10:41:34 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 15:11:34 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] regular expression for Indian landline numbers
Message-ID: <1290678094.2137.175.camel@localhost>

hi,

on looking at the telephone book, Indian landline numbers have three
forms

3 digit STD code followed by 8 digits
4 digit STD code followed by 7 digits
5 digit STD code followed by 6 digits

the first digit of the STD code has to be 0. The first digit of the
landline number starts from 1-6. Of course I am not dead sure of the
starting numbers, but I have seen mobile numbers starting with 9 and 8,
and I think 7 is also reserved for mobile. I could not find any
authorative info on this. This is the re:

r'(^0\d{2}[-\s]{1}[1-6]{1}\d{7})|(^0\d{3}[-\s]{1}[1-6]{1}\d{6})|(^0
\d{4}[-\s]{1}[1-6]{1}\d{5})'

any clues on how to make it shorter? And any info as to whether my
assumptions as to the landline numbers is correct?
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From noufal at gmail.com  Thu Nov 25 11:02:31 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 15:32:31 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] regular expression for Indian landline numbers
In-Reply-To: <1290678094.2137.175.camel@localhost> (Kenneth Gonsalves's
	message of "Thu, 25 Nov 2010 15:11:34 +0530")
References: <1290678094.2137.175.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <871v6967rc.fsf@gmail.com>

On Thu, Nov 25 2010, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:

> hi,
>
> on looking at the telephone book, Indian landline numbers have three
> forms
>
> 3 digit STD code followed by 8 digits
> 4 digit STD code followed by 7 digits
> 5 digit STD code followed by 6 digits
>
> the first digit of the STD code has to be 0. The first digit of the
> landline number starts from 1-6. Of course I am not dead sure of the
> starting numbers, but I have seen mobile numbers starting with 9 and 8,
> and I think 7 is also reserved for mobile. I could not find any
> authorative info on this. This is the re:
>
> r'(^0\d{2}[-\s]{1}[1-6]{1}\d{7})|(^0\d{3}[-\s]{1}[1-6]{1}\d{6})|(^0
> \d{4}[-\s]{1}[1-6]{1}\d{5})'
>
> any clues on how to make it shorter? And any info as to whether my
> assumptions as to the landline numbers is correct?

This is the Python list. Not Perl. :)

But anyway, I've noticed that many people mention land line numbers
similar to the way cell phones specify numbers. ie. +9180xxxxxxxx
(ISD-code, STD-code and the rest) so that might be a case you'd have to
capture as well. 


-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Thu Nov 25 11:06:40 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 15:36:40 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] regular expression for Indian landline numbers
In-Reply-To: <871v6967rc.fsf@gmail.com>
References: <1290678094.2137.175.camel@localhost> <871v6967rc.fsf@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1290679600.2137.177.camel@localhost>

On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 15:32 +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> > r'(^0\d{2}[-\s]{1}[1-6]{1}\d{7})|(^0\d{3}[-\s]{1}[1-6]{1}\d{6})|(^0
> > \d{4}[-\s]{1}[1-6]{1}\d{5})'
> >
> > any clues on how to make it shorter? And any info as to whether my
> > assumptions as to the landline numbers is correct?
> 
> This is the Python list. Not Perl. :) 

huh? I do not see any perl in my post
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From mandarvaze at gmail.com  Thu Nov 25 11:25:22 2010
From: mandarvaze at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?TWFuZGFyIFZhemUgLyDgpK7gpILgpKbgpL7gpLAg4KS14KSd4KWH?=)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 15:55:22 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] regular expression for Indian landline numbers
In-Reply-To: <1290678094.2137.175.camel@localhost>
References: <1290678094.2137.175.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik=q6SoZRCoePtYoB-U46xjYcH8A_sbkS9P=E4h@mail.gmail.com>

> And any info as to whether my
> assumptions as to the landline numbers is correct?
>

Check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India_phone_code and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_numbers_in_India to get additional
info.
These two URLs also have link to some PDFs from DoT

-Mandar

From abpillai at gmail.com  Thu Nov 25 11:26:13 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 15:56:13 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] regular expression for Indian landline numbers
In-Reply-To: <1290678094.2137.175.camel@localhost>
References: <1290678094.2137.175.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <AANLkTineB-DDTf7FbufoAUpxMKar+3kAN7sC+d8HePu0@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>wrote:

> hi,
>
> on looking at the telephone book, Indian landline numbers have three
> forms
>
> 3 digit STD code followed by 8 digits
> 4 digit STD code followed by 7 digits
> 5 digit STD code followed by 6 digits
>
> the first digit of the STD code has to be 0. The first digit of the
> landline number starts from 1-6. Of course I am not dead sure of the
> starting numbers, but I have seen mobile numbers starting with 9 and 8,
> and I think 7 is also reserved for mobile. I could not find any
> authorative info on this. This is the re:
>
> r'(^0\d{2}[-\s]{1}[1-6]{1}\d{7})|(^0\d{3}[-\s]{1}[1-6]{1}\d{6})|(^0
> \d{4}[-\s]{1}[1-6]{1}\d{5})'
>

It is doable, but you should really use pyparsing for this - this is UGLY !
:)
Meanwhile, let me hack on it.


>
> any clues on how to make it shorter? And any info as to whether my
> assumptions as to the landline numbers is correct?
> --
> regards
> Kenneth Gonsalves
>
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



-- 
--Anand

From ramdaz at gmail.com  Thu Nov 25 11:36:40 2010
From: ramdaz at gmail.com (Ramdas S)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 16:06:40 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] regular expression for Indian landline numbers
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTineB-DDTf7FbufoAUpxMKar+3kAN7sC+d8HePu0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1290678094.2137.175.camel@localhost>
	<AANLkTineB-DDTf7FbufoAUpxMKar+3kAN7sC+d8HePu0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikhZEmRQLnQO+zqDp4aJq4ELbc-QmkGy7x3d7Q_@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <
abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org
> >wrote:
>
> > hi,
> >
> > on looking at the telephone book, Indian landline numbers have three
> > forms
> >
> > 3 digit STD code followed by 8 digits
> > 4 digit STD code followed by 7 digits
> > 5 digit STD code followed by 6 digits
> >
> > the first digit of the STD code has to be 0. The first digit of the
> > landline number starts from 1-6. Of course I am not dead sure of the
> > starting numbers, but I have seen mobile numbers starting with 9 and 8,
> > and I think 7 is also reserved for mobile. I could not find any
> > authorative info on this. This is the re:
> >
> > r'(^0\d{2}[-\s]{1}[1-6]{1}\d{7})|(^0\d{3}[-\s]{1}[1-6]{1}\d{6})|(^0
> > \d{4}[-\s]{1}[1-6]{1}\d{5})'
> >
>
> It is doable, but you should really use pyparsing for this - this is UGLY !
> :)
> Meanwhile, let me hack on it.
>

Regex is ugly. I guess Kenneth being django guy wants to use the RegexField
in django forms

>
> >
> > any clues on how to make it shorter? And any info as to whether my
> > assumptions as to the landline numbers is correct?
> > --
> > regards
> > Kenneth Gonsalves
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > BangPypers mailing list
> > BangPypers at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> >
>
>
>
> --
> --Anand
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



-- 
Ramdas S
+91 9342 583 065

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Thu Nov 25 11:38:32 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 16:08:32 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] regular expression for Indian landline numbers
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik=q6SoZRCoePtYoB-U46xjYcH8A_sbkS9P=E4h@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1290678094.2137.175.camel@localhost>
	<AANLkTik=q6SoZRCoePtYoB-U46xjYcH8A_sbkS9P=E4h@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1290681512.2137.178.camel@localhost>

On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 15:55 +0530, Mandar Vaze / ????? ??? wrote:
> > And any info as to whether my
> > assumptions as to the landline numbers is correct?
> >
> 
> Check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India_phone_code and
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_numbers_in_India to get
> additional
> info.
> These two URLs also have link to some PDFs from DoT 

please give me *some* credit for ability to search - those articles are
wildly inaccurate.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Thu Nov 25 11:40:05 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 16:10:05 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] regular expression for Indian landline numbers
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTineB-DDTf7FbufoAUpxMKar+3kAN7sC+d8HePu0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1290678094.2137.175.camel@localhost>
	<AANLkTineB-DDTf7FbufoAUpxMKar+3kAN7sC+d8HePu0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1290681605.2137.180.camel@localhost>

On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 15:56 +0530, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote:
> > r'(^0\d{2}[-\s]{1}[1-6]{1}\d{7})|(^0\d{3}[-\s]{1}[1-6]{1}\d{6})|(^0
> > \d{4}[-\s]{1}[1-6]{1}\d{5})'
> >
> 
> It is doable, but you should really use pyparsing for this - this is
> UGLY ! 

I know - but everything I tried to make it look good did not work. And
the app in which I am plugging this into requires an re.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Thu Nov 25 11:41:12 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 16:11:12 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] regular expression for Indian landline numbers
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikhZEmRQLnQO+zqDp4aJq4ELbc-QmkGy7x3d7Q_@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1290678094.2137.175.camel@localhost>
	<AANLkTineB-DDTf7FbufoAUpxMKar+3kAN7sC+d8HePu0@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikhZEmRQLnQO+zqDp4aJq4ELbc-QmkGy7x3d7Q_@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1290681672.2137.181.camel@localhost>

On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 16:06 +0530, Ramdas S wrote:
> > It is doable, but you should really use pyparsing for this - this is
> UGLY !
> > :)
> > Meanwhile, let me hack on it.
> >
> 
> Regex is ugly. I guess Kenneth being django guy wants to use the
> RegexField
> in django forms 

where do I send the coconut?
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From scorpion032 at gmail.com  Thu Nov 25 11:47:59 2010
From: scorpion032 at gmail.com (Lakshman Prasad)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 16:17:59 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] regular expression for Indian landline numbers
In-Reply-To: <1290681672.2137.181.camel@localhost>
References: <1290678094.2137.175.camel@localhost>
	<AANLkTineB-DDTf7FbufoAUpxMKar+3kAN7sC+d8HePu0@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikhZEmRQLnQO+zqDp4aJq4ELbc-QmkGy7x3d7Q_@mail.gmail.com>
	<1290681672.2137.181.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimYsg-QnN6q7L_vDUNGtcHToTr9HVTC=WsM0spC@mail.gmail.com>

Rather than flexing the regex to everything it *can do*, I'd do the
following:

* Capture 2 parts of the number separated by a "-" or a whitespace: /^(\d+)[
\-]+(\d+)$/
* Use the captured parts to verify the lengths etc, using simple normal
python.

On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>wrote:

> On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 16:06 +0530, Ramdas S wrote:
> > > It is doable, but you should really use pyparsing for this - this is
> > UGLY !
> > > :)
> > > Meanwhile, let me hack on it.
> > >
> >
> > Regex is ugly. I guess Kenneth being django guy wants to use the
> > RegexField
> > in django forms
>
> where do I send the coconut?
> --
> regards
> Kenneth Gonsalves
>
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Thu Nov 25 11:52:57 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 16:22:57 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] regular expression for Indian landline numbers
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimYsg-QnN6q7L_vDUNGtcHToTr9HVTC=WsM0spC@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1290678094.2137.175.camel@localhost>
	<AANLkTineB-DDTf7FbufoAUpxMKar+3kAN7sC+d8HePu0@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikhZEmRQLnQO+zqDp4aJq4ELbc-QmkGy7x3d7Q_@mail.gmail.com>
	<1290681672.2137.181.camel@localhost>
	<AANLkTimYsg-QnN6q7L_vDUNGtcHToTr9HVTC=WsM0spC@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1290682377.2137.182.camel@localhost>

On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 16:17 +0530, Lakshman Prasad wrote:
> Rather than flexing the regex to everything it *can do*, I'd do the
> following:
> 
> * Capture 2 parts of the number separated by a "-" or a
> whitespace: /^(\d+)[
> \-]+(\d+)$/
> * Use the captured parts to verify the lengths etc, using simple
> normal
> python. 

sure - I can think of several ways to do this, but as explained, I need
a regex.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From venkat83 at gmail.com  Thu Nov 25 12:08:44 2010
From: venkat83 at gmail.com (Venkatraman S)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 16:38:44 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [django] Directory Listing
Message-ID: <AANLkTimFerm_=R4YBzsO5Mz289Dt+r4dwOSPRHBU7im2@mail.gmail.com>

Is there a Directory Listing app? By directory i meant categories.
Lets say, a system to manage the various types of categories in eBay and
associate items and other categories within it.

-V-
http://twitter.com/venkasub

From djpatra at gmail.com  Thu Nov 25 12:10:09 2010
From: djpatra at gmail.com (devjyoti patra)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 16:40:09 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] regular expression for Indian landline numbers
Message-ID: <AANLkTimt4NYoX8SkOoc6WiHvT2DVhM3JOUfkw0f4j+qo@mail.gmail.com>

This is a beautification attempt towards KG's regex

(^0[\d]+)[-\s]{1}([1-6]{1}[\d]{5,7})

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Thu Nov 25 12:15:53 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 16:45:53 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [django] Directory Listing
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimFerm_=R4YBzsO5Mz289Dt+r4dwOSPRHBU7im2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimFerm_=R4YBzsO5Mz289Dt+r4dwOSPRHBU7im2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1290683753.2137.195.camel@localhost>

On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 16:38 +0530, Venkatraman S wrote:
> Is there a Directory Listing app? By directory i meant categories.
> Lets say, a system to manage the various types of categories in eBay
> and
> associate items and other categories within it. 

django-mptt?
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Thu Nov 25 12:23:32 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 16:53:32 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] regular expression for Indian landline numbers
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimt4NYoX8SkOoc6WiHvT2DVhM3JOUfkw0f4j+qo@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 16:40 +0530, devjyoti patra wrote:
> This is a beautification attempt towards KG's regex
> 
> (^0[\d]+)[-\s]{1}([1-6]{1}[\d]{5,7}) 

0423678 244667   <---- not a valid number but your regex accepts it
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From venkat83 at gmail.com  Thu Nov 25 12:24:57 2010
From: venkat83 at gmail.com (Venkatraman S)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 16:54:57 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [django] Directory Listing
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On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>wrote:

> django-mptt?
>


I have seen some people rant about it in #django. Have you tried it?

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Thu Nov 25 12:28:23 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 16:58:23 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [django] Directory Listing
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On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 16:54 +0530, Venkatraman S wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
> <lawgon at au-kbc.org>wrote:
> 
> > django-mptt?
> >
> 
> 
> 

I did have a try some years back - but I am weak in mathematics, so I
rolled my own.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From venkat83 at gmail.com  Thu Nov 25 12:32:42 2010
From: venkat83 at gmail.com (Venkatraman S)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 17:02:42 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [django] Directory Listing
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On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>wrote:

>
> I did have a try some years back - but I am weak in mathematics, so I
> rolled my own.
>

How is this related to math-troubles? You mean "<" and ">" are confusing?

From gora at mimirtech.com  Thu Nov 25 12:33:38 2010
From: gora at mimirtech.com (Gora Mohanty)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 17:03:38 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [django] Directory Listing
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On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Venkatraman S <venkat83 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Is there a Directory Listing app? By directory i meant categories.
> Lets say, a system to manage the various types of categories in eBay and
> associate items and other categories within it.
[...]

What do you mean by an "app" in the context of Python? Do you mean
a Django application?

Also, could you clarify your requirements further? If all you need is a
tagging engine, there are several possibilities, both just in Python,
and also in Django.

Regards,
Gora

From abpillai at gmail.com  Thu Nov 25 12:58:02 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 17:28:02 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] regular expression for Indian landline numbers
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On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>wrote:

> hi,
>
> on looking at the telephone book, Indian landline numbers have three
> forms
>
> 3 digit STD code followed by 8 digits
> 4 digit STD code followed by 7 digits
> 5 digit STD code followed by 6 digits
>
> the first digit of the STD code has to be 0. The first digit of the
> landline number starts from 1-6. Of course I am not dead sure of the
> starting numbers, but I have seen mobile numbers starting with 9 and 8,
> and I think 7 is also reserved for mobile. I could not find any
> authorative info on this. This is the re:
>
> r'(^0\d{2}[-\s]{1}[1-6]{1}\d{7})|(^0\d{3}[-\s]{1}[1-6]{1}\d{6})|(^0
> \d{4}[-\s]{1}[1-6]{1}\d{5})'
>
> any clues on how to make it shorter? And any info as to whether my
> assumptions as to the landline numbers is correct?
>

 Your regex is complicated because you are putting all rules
 into a single regex. There are different ways to make this shorter.

 The best option according to me is to define two regexes, one
for the STD code part and the other for the number part. So in
this case, it will be like,

>>> std=re.compile(r'(^0\d{2,4})')
>>> num=re.compile(r'([1-6]{1}\d{6,8})')
>>> number='080-25936609'

Find out the lengths of the std and number parts.

>>> l1=len(std.findall(number.split('-')[0])[0])
>>> l1
3
>>> l2=len(num.findall(number.split('-')[1])[0])
>>> l2
8

And do the rest in code.

If (((l1==3) and (l2==8)) or ... ):
    print 'valid number'
else:
    print 'invalid number'

The second option which I don't favor is to split the rule into 3 regexes
instead of ORing them together and then do a simple OR in code.

>>> r1=re.compile(r'(^0\d{2}[-\s]{1}[1-6]{1}\d{7})')
>>> r2=re.compile(r'(^0\d{3}[-\s]{1}[1-6]{1}\d{6})')
>>> r3=re.compile(r'(^0\d{4}[-\s]{1}[1-6]{1}\d{5})')

Then of course,

if (r1.match(num) or r2.match(num) or r3.match(num)):
   print 'valid'
else:
  print 'invalid'

If you can't use *any* code and absolutely has to do this directly
in regex, revert back to your original one. There is no other way
to do this using the re module.

--Anand


> --
> regards
> Kenneth Gonsalves
>
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From rmathews at gmail.com  Thu Nov 25 13:13:16 2010
From: rmathews at gmail.com (Roshan Mathews)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 17:43:16 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] regular expression for Indian landline numbers
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On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 15:11, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> wrote:
> r'(^0\d{2}[-\s]{1}[1-6]{1}\d{7})|(^0\d{3}[-\s]{1}[1-6]{1}\d{6})|(^0
> \d{4}[-\s]{1}[1-6]{1}\d{5})'
>
> any clues on how to make it shorter?

The {1}s are redundant.

-- 
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From mandarvaze at gmail.com  Thu Nov 25 13:55:24 2010
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Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 18:25:24 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] regular expression for Indian landline numbers
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On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>wrote:

> On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 15:55 +0530, Mandar Vaze / ????? ??? wrote:
> > > And any info as to whether my
> > > assumptions as to the landline numbers is correct?
> > >
> >
> > Check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India_phone_code and
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_numbers_in_India to get
> > additional
> > info.
> > These two URLs also have link to some PDFs from DoT
>
> please give me *some* credit for ability to search - those articles are
> wildly inaccurate.
>

Did you mean "out dated" ?
Feel free to share the accurate information source (if it is not
confidential)

-Mandar

From venkat83 at gmail.com  Thu Nov 25 14:10:38 2010
From: venkat83 at gmail.com (Venkatraman S)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 18:40:38 +0530
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On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Gora Mohanty <gora at mimirtech.com> wrote:

>
> What do you mean by an "app" in the context of Python? Do you mean
> a Django application?
>

Check out the Subject of the email.

From steve at lonetwin.net  Thu Nov 25 14:15:07 2010
From: steve at lonetwin.net (steve)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 18:45:07 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] regular expression for Indian landline numbers
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On 11/25/2010 04:10 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 15:56 +0530, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote:
>>  >  r'(^0\d{2}[-\s]{1}[1-6]{1}\d{7})|(^0\d{3}[-\s]{1}[1-6]{1}\d{6})|(^0
>>  >  \d{4}[-\s]{1}[1-6]{1}\d{5})'
>>  >
>>
>>  It is doable, but you should really use pyparsing for this - this is
>>  UGLY !
>
> I know - but everything I tried to make it look good did not work. And
> the app in which I am plugging this into requires an re.

Certainly, you can beautify that using the verbose option. Here is my attempt. 
(Note, I use the beautiful (?(id/name)yes-pattern|no-pattern) syntax for the 
black magic :)

phone_re = re.compile(r"""
     (^0                             # all std-codes start with 0
         (
             (?P<twodigit>\d{2})   | # the std-code group
             (?P<threedigit>\d{3}) | # either two, three or four digits
             (?P<fourdigit>\d{4})    # following the 0
         )
         [-\s]                       # space or -
         [1-6]                       # first digit of phone number
         (
             (?(twodigit)\d{7})   |  # 7 more phone digits for 3 digit stdcode
             (?(threedigit)\d{6}) |  # 6 more phone digits for 4 digit stdcode
             (?(fourdigit)\d{5})     # 5 more phone digits for 5 digit stdcode
         )
     )$""", re.VERBOSE)


hth,
cheers,
- steve

From orsenthil at gmail.com  Thu Nov 25 14:18:13 2010
From: orsenthil at gmail.com (Senthil Kumaran)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 21:18:13 +0800
Subject: [BangPypers] [django] Directory Listing
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On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 06:40:38PM +0530, Venkatraman S wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Gora Mohanty <gora at mimirtech.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> > What do you mean by an "app" in the context of Python? Do you mean
> > a Django application?
> >
> 
> Check out the Subject of the email.

If I were to reply to previous question, I would said I like this.

"Yes, I mean a django pluggable which is may be used for listing a
directory" and probably explained further.

-- 
Senthil

From venkat83 at gmail.com  Thu Nov 25 14:20:44 2010
From: venkat83 at gmail.com (Venkatraman S)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 18:50:44 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [django] Directory Listing
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On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Senthil Kumaran <orsenthil at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 06:40:38PM +0530, Venkatraman S wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Gora Mohanty <gora at mimirtech.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > What do you mean by an "app" in the context of Python? Do you mean
> > > a Django application?
> > >
> >
> > Check out the Subject of the email.
>
> If I were to reply to previous question, I would said I like this.
>
> "Yes, I mean a django pluggable which is may be used for listing a
> directory" and probably explained further.
>

Sure.

From steve at lonetwin.net  Fri Nov 26 03:26:32 2010
From: steve at lonetwin.net (steve)
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 07:56:32 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] regular expression for Indian landline numbers
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On 11/25/2010 06:45 PM, steve wrote:
> On 11/25/2010 04:10 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
>>  On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 15:56 +0530, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote:
>>>   >   r'(^0\d{2}[-\s]{1}[1-6]{1}\d{7})|(^0\d{3}[-\s]{1}[1-6]{1}\d{6})|(^0
>>>   >   \d{4}[-\s]{1}[1-6]{1}\d{5})'
>>>   >
>>>
>>>   It is doable, but you should really use pyparsing for this - this is
>>>   UGLY !
>>
>>  I know - but everything I tried to make it look good did not work. And
>>  the app in which I am plugging this into requires an re.
>
> Certainly, you can beautify that using the verbose option. Here is my attempt.
> (Note, I use the beautiful (?(id/name)yes-pattern|no-pattern) syntax for the
> black magic :)
>

I had a bit of time this morning and didn't feel like starting work just yet, so 
to amuse myself I completed this. Here is the proper regex ...with tests !

http://pastebin.com/yjP5H0i2


Basically, almost the same thing as I posted yesterday but with named groups for 
std-code and phone number.

cheers,
- steve

From rmathews at gmail.com  Fri Nov 26 04:19:41 2010
From: rmathews at gmail.com (Roshan Mathews)
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 08:49:41 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] regular expression for Indian landline numbers
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On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 07:56, steve <steve at lonetwin.net> wrote:
> I had a bit of time this morning and didn't feel like starting work just
> yet, so to amuse myself I completed this. Here is the proper regex ...with
> tests !
>
> http://pastebin.com/yjP5H0i2

Neat.

-- 
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From dhananjay.nene at gmail.com  Fri Nov 26 04:33:02 2010
From: dhananjay.nene at gmail.com (Dhananjay Nene)
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 09:03:02 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] regular expression for Indian landline numbers
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On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>wrote:

> hi,
>
> on looking at the telephone book, Indian landline numbers have three
> forms
>
> 3 digit STD code followed by 8 digits
> 4 digit STD code followed by 7 digits
> 5 digit STD code followed by 6 digits
>
> the first digit of the STD code has to be 0. The first digit of the
> landline number starts from 1-6. Of course I am not dead sure of the
> starting numbers, but I have seen mobile numbers starting with 9 and 8,
> and I think 7 is also reserved for mobile. I could not find any
> authorative info on this. This is the re:
>
> r'(^0\d{2}[-\s]{1}[1-6]{1}\d{7})|(^0\d{3}[-\s]{1}[1-6]{1}\d{6})|(^0
> \d{4}[-\s]{1}[1-6]{1}\d{5})'
>
> any clues on how to make it shorter? And any info as to whether my
> assumptions as to the landline numbers is correct?
>

Not to take away the fun that so many are obviously having on this thread,
but at least from a business perspective what generally matters (barring
some rare exceptions) is that Indian phone numbers are all 10 digits. :)

Thus there could be the optional prefixes +91 or 0 followed by an additional
sequence of numbers which may have embedded some spaces, hyphens or in rare
cases parenthesis which are quite ignorable.

So all one really needs to do (say if one wants to call back) is to extract
one single 10 digit number using the above logic by stripping off the
optional prefixes and the extra characters (which I presume would be quite
trivial). But then maybe my mind is not working well today early morning :)

Dhananjay

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> Kenneth Gonsalves
>
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From navin.kabra at gmail.com  Fri Nov 26 04:39:06 2010
From: navin.kabra at gmail.com (Navin Kabra)
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 09:09:06 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] regular expression for Indian landline numbers
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On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Dhananjay Nene <dhananjay.nene at gmail.com>wrote:

> Thus there could be the optional prefixes +91 or 0 followed by an
> additional
> sequence of numbers which may have embedded some spaces, hyphens or in rare
> cases parenthesis which are quite ignorable.
>
> So all one really needs to do (say if one wants to call back) is to extract
> one single 10 digit number using the above logic by stripping off the
> optional prefixes and the extra characters (which I presume would be quite
> trivial). But then maybe my mind is not working well today early morning :)
>


This might be veering off from the original subject a bit, but since you
brought it up, here's the code I use for extracting an "Indian" phone number
from various different ways in which users might enter that...:
http://pastebin.com/GRyLgePr

No, it's not an regexp like Kenneth wants. But I've found this piece of code
to be useful in a number of different contexts...

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Fri Nov 26 06:41:09 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 11:11:09 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [django] Directory Listing
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On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 17:02 +0530, Venkatraman S wrote:
> > I did have a try some years back - but I am weak in mathematics, so
> I
> > rolled my own.
> >
> 
> How is this related to math-troubles? You mean "<" and ">" are
> confusing? 

I could not understand the logic - some algorithm (I did not take
computer science in college)
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Fri Nov 26 06:45:38 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 11:15:38 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] regular expression for Indian landline numbers
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimqbG6ku5-pizmiScVCzef4OBx=qqmE6ONsQBUw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1290678094.2137.175.camel@localhost>
	<AANLkTik=q6SoZRCoePtYoB-U46xjYcH8A_sbkS9P=E4h@mail.gmail.com>
	<1290681512.2137.178.camel@localhost>
	<AANLkTimqbG6ku5-pizmiScVCzef4OBx=qqmE6ONsQBUw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1290750338.2137.224.camel@localhost>

On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 18:25 +0530, Mandar Vaze / ????? ??? wrote:
> > please give me *some* credit for ability to search - those articles
> are
> > wildly inaccurate.
> >
> 
> Did you mean "out dated" ?
> Feel free to share the accurate information source (if it is not
> confidential) 

I am crowd sourcing the info - and looking at the telephone directory. I
am planning to drop in at the BSNL office also (but I doubt anyone will
have a clue about it). 
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From ramdaz at gmail.com  Fri Nov 26 06:53:31 2010
From: ramdaz at gmail.com (Ramdas S)
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 11:23:31 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] regular expression for Indian landline numbers
In-Reply-To: <1290750338.2137.224.camel@localhost>
References: <1290678094.2137.175.camel@localhost>
	<AANLkTik=q6SoZRCoePtYoB-U46xjYcH8A_sbkS9P=E4h@mail.gmail.com>
	<1290681512.2137.178.camel@localhost>
	<AANLkTimqbG6ku5-pizmiScVCzef4OBx=qqmE6ONsQBUw@mail.gmail.com>
	<1290750338.2137.224.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinO=X4W1O2uRmN_3FfmTYsk3oY9aGq4cCA_a9GZ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>wrote:

> On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 18:25 +0530, Mandar Vaze / ????? ??? wrote:
> > > please give me *some* credit for ability to search - those articles
> > are
> > > wildly inaccurate.
> > >
> >
> > Did you mean "out dated" ?
> > Feel free to share the accurate information source (if it is not
> > confidential)
>
> I am crowd sourcing the info - and looking at the telephone directory. I
> am planning to drop in at the BSNL office also (but I doubt anyone will
> have a clue about it).
> --
> regards
> Kenneth Gonsalves
>
>
Kenneth,

Would appreciate if you can tell whether you want a Regex, or is this to
ensure that people enter the right numbers in a form?

> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



-- 
Ramdas S
+91 9342 583 065

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Fri Nov 26 06:56:26 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 11:26:26 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] regular expression for Indian landline numbers
In-Reply-To: <4CEF1AD8.4020407@lonetwin.net>
References: <1290678094.2137.175.camel@localhost>
	<AANLkTineB-DDTf7FbufoAUpxMKar+3kAN7sC+d8HePu0@mail.gmail.com>
	<1290681605.2137.180.camel@localhost> <4CEE615B.4020906@lonetwin.net>
	<4CEF1AD8.4020407@lonetwin.net>
Message-ID: <1290750986.2137.228.camel@localhost>

On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 07:56 +0530, steve wrote:
> I had a bit of time this morning and didn't feel like starting work
> just yet, so 
> to amuse myself I completed this.

strangely enough that is how I got into this problem

>  Here is the proper regex ...with tests !
> 
> http://pastebin.com/yjP5H0i2 

cool - of course negative tests have to be added - but that is no big
deal
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From mandarvaze at gmail.com  Fri Nov 26 07:00:12 2010
From: mandarvaze at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?TWFuZGFyIFZhemUgLyDgpK7gpILgpKbgpL7gpLAg4KS14KSd4KWH?=)
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 11:30:12 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] regular expression for Indian landline numbers
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik+KZwbY8FDd_0YJibtG0AustAXxBnCrzTkf9Bh@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1290678094.2137.175.camel@localhost>
	<AANLkTik+KZwbY8FDd_0YJibtG0AustAXxBnCrzTkf9Bh@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimexo-jEBM8-shdT66wC-st6NBRSHx4CXeDYpo9@mail.gmail.com>

> So all one really needs to do (say if one wants to call back) is to extract
> one single 10 digit number using the above logic by stripping off the
> optional prefixes and the extra characters (which I presume would be quite
> trivial). But then maybe my mind is not working well today early morning :)
>

Kenneth's original email (
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/bangpypers/2010-November/005386.html)
doesn' say whether he wishes to validate or extract.

Depending on how far one wants to go - validation of phone number (depending
on additional  information one may have) can get very complex.

e.g. If one needs to validate a landline telephone number for person staying
in chhatisgadh - then a valid telephone number like 080-3033777 is NOT valid
in this case since this number belongs to b'lore.

Similarly for mobile numbers, not ALL 10 digit numbers starting with 9,8 or
7 are valid. Several 4 digit codes in 8xxx, and 7xxx are unallocated - hence
invalid.
look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_telephone_numbering_in_India
(But kenneth may have already looked at this)

So depending on how accurate the validation needs to be - this can be very
interesting validation problem.
One can always take simplistic view - if the requirements are fulfilled.

-Mandar

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Fri Nov 26 07:03:52 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 11:33:52 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] regular expression for Indian landline numbers
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik+KZwbY8FDd_0YJibtG0AustAXxBnCrzTkf9Bh@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1290678094.2137.175.camel@localhost>
	<AANLkTik+KZwbY8FDd_0YJibtG0AustAXxBnCrzTkf9Bh@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1290751432.2137.233.camel@localhost>

On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 09:03 +0530, Dhananjay Nene wrote:
> So all one really needs to do (say if one wants to call back) is to
> extract
> one single 10 digit number using the above logic by stripping off the
> optional prefixes and the extra characters (which I presume would be
> quite
> trivial). But then maybe my mind is not working well today early
> morning :) 

and how does one distinguish the STD code from the phone number? my std
code is 4 digits and my phone number is 7 digits - but someone can
assume that the std code is 3 digits and the phone number is 8 digits -
and when he comes within my local area, he cannot phone me. That is why
the STD code and the phone number *must* be separated by something,
otherwise it is impossible to parse. 
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Fri Nov 26 07:07:38 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 11:37:38 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] regular expression for Indian landline numbers
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinO=X4W1O2uRmN_3FfmTYsk3oY9aGq4cCA_a9GZ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1290678094.2137.175.camel@localhost>
	<AANLkTik=q6SoZRCoePtYoB-U46xjYcH8A_sbkS9P=E4h@mail.gmail.com>
	<1290681512.2137.178.camel@localhost>
	<AANLkTimqbG6ku5-pizmiScVCzef4OBx=qqmE6ONsQBUw@mail.gmail.com>
	<1290750338.2137.224.camel@localhost>
	<AANLkTinO=X4W1O2uRmN_3FfmTYsk3oY9aGq4cCA_a9GZ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1290751658.2137.235.camel@localhost>

On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 11:23 +0530, Ramdas S wrote:
> Would appreciate if you can tell whether you want a Regex, or is this
> to
> ensure that people enter the right numbers in a form? 

regex - for django.contrib.localflavor (I had put something up, but it
only matches my local phone number, so I have to change it). btw, regex
should not be used for validation (AFAIK).
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Fri Nov 26 07:10:05 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 11:40:05 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] regular expression for Indian landline numbers
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimexo-jEBM8-shdT66wC-st6NBRSHx4CXeDYpo9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1290678094.2137.175.camel@localhost>
	<AANLkTik+KZwbY8FDd_0YJibtG0AustAXxBnCrzTkf9Bh@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimexo-jEBM8-shdT66wC-st6NBRSHx4CXeDYpo9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1290751805.2137.236.camel@localhost>

On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 11:30 +0530, Mandar Vaze / ????? ??? wrote:
> look at
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_telephone_numbering_in_India
> (But kenneth may have already looked at this) 

no, I had not looked at this - I was not looking for the mobile scheme
which is fairly simple.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From dhananjay.nene at gmail.com  Fri Nov 26 07:29:57 2010
From: dhananjay.nene at gmail.com (Dhananjay Nene)
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 11:59:57 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] regular expression for Indian landline numbers
In-Reply-To: <1290751805.2137.236.camel@localhost>
References: <1290678094.2137.175.camel@localhost>
	<AANLkTik+KZwbY8FDd_0YJibtG0AustAXxBnCrzTkf9Bh@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimexo-jEBM8-shdT66wC-st6NBRSHx4CXeDYpo9@mail.gmail.com>
	<1290751805.2137.236.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik6zhtN1VqUMY-3kAerZ80zfXCqXfW6Nvd2BtK1@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>wrote:

> On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 11:30 +0530, Mandar Vaze / ????? ??? wrote:
> > look at
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_telephone_numbering_in_India
> > (But kenneth may have already looked at this)
>
> no, I had not looked at this - I was not looking for the mobile scheme
> which is fairly simple.
>

For a generic scheme http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_numbers_in_India

But I couldn't find out any programmable pattern to identify how long is a
STD code given a full number. Having said that, at least for most generic
scenarios STD code is simply an indicator relic of how telephone exchanges
work, in most cases an unimportant part of the full 10 digit number

--
> regards
> Kenneth Gonsalves
>
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



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twitter: http://twitter.com/dnene

From dhananjay.nene at gmail.com  Fri Nov 26 07:36:25 2010
From: dhananjay.nene at gmail.com (Dhananjay Nene)
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 12:06:25 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] regular expression for Indian landline numbers
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik6zhtN1VqUMY-3kAerZ80zfXCqXfW6Nvd2BtK1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1290678094.2137.175.camel@localhost>
	<AANLkTik+KZwbY8FDd_0YJibtG0AustAXxBnCrzTkf9Bh@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimexo-jEBM8-shdT66wC-st6NBRSHx4CXeDYpo9@mail.gmail.com>
	<1290751805.2137.236.camel@localhost>
	<AANLkTik6zhtN1VqUMY-3kAerZ80zfXCqXfW6Nvd2BtK1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinKHN1aO9G0L3jv8ZprtWy1hp3iQ8GOgZEfo+-p@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Dhananjay Nene
<dhananjay.nene at gmail.com>wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 11:30 +0530, Mandar Vaze / ????? ??? wrote:
>> > look at
>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_telephone_numbering_in_India
>> > (But kenneth may have already looked at this)
>>
>> no, I had not looked at this - I was not looking for the mobile scheme
>> which is fairly simple.
>>
>
> For a generic scheme
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_numbers_in_India
>
> But I couldn't find out any programmable pattern to identify how long is a
> STD code given a full number. Having said that, at least for most generic
> scenarios STD code is simply an indicator relic of how telephone exchanges
> work, in most cases an unimportant part of the full 10 digit number
>
> Here's another link which is quite topical :
http://blog.stevenlevithan.com/archives/validate-phone-number

>
>> regards
>> Kenneth Gonsalves
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> BangPypers mailing list
>> BangPypers at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------
> blog: http://blog.dhananjaynene.com
> twitter: http://twitter.com/dnene
>



-- 
--------------------------------------------------------
blog: http://blog.dhananjaynene.com
twitter: http://twitter.com/dnene

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Fri Nov 26 07:40:41 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 12:10:41 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] regular expression for Indian landline numbers
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik6zhtN1VqUMY-3kAerZ80zfXCqXfW6Nvd2BtK1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1290678094.2137.175.camel@localhost>
	<AANLkTik+KZwbY8FDd_0YJibtG0AustAXxBnCrzTkf9Bh@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimexo-jEBM8-shdT66wC-st6NBRSHx4CXeDYpo9@mail.gmail.com>
	<1290751805.2137.236.camel@localhost>
	<AANLkTik6zhtN1VqUMY-3kAerZ80zfXCqXfW6Nvd2BtK1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1290753641.2137.238.camel@localhost>

On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 11:59 +0530, Dhananjay Nene wrote:
> For a generic scheme
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_numbers_in_India

as already noted, this article is inaccurate. For example 'two tier
cities have a 3 digit code' - I can point out villages that have 3 digit
codes.
> 
> But I couldn't find out any programmable pattern to identify how long
> is a
> STD code given a full number. Having said that, at least for most
> generic
> scenarios STD code is simply an indicator relic of how telephone
> exchanges
> work, in most cases an unimportant part of the full 10 digit number
> 
> 
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From noufal at gmail.com  Fri Nov 26 12:39:42 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 17:09:42 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] User group meeting
Message-ID: <87aakwco01.fsf@gmail.com>


Apologies if this is a repeat. My cellphone is not reliable. 

It's been a few months since the conference is done. We haven't had a
User Group meeting in a while. Any takers for sometime mid December? 



-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in


From baiju.m.mail at gmail.com  Fri Nov 26 13:38:39 2010
From: baiju.m.mail at gmail.com (Baiju M)
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 18:08:39 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] User group meeting
In-Reply-To: <87aakwco01.fsf@gmail.com>
References: <87aakwco01.fsf@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinbR=q8jOHdZ6DkOnKBhYK4w5OguhwjspR21tXh@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Apologies if this is a repeat. My cellphone is not reliable.
>
> It's been a few months since the conference is done. We haven't had a
> User Group meeting in a while. Any takers for sometime mid December?

I wonder doodle will be useful to find a convenient date for everyone:
http://www.doodle.com/qrw779k2grp8uiqy

Let's try this tool ?

--
Baiju M

From santrajan at gmail.com  Fri Nov 26 13:41:01 2010
From: santrajan at gmail.com (Santosh Rajan)
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 18:11:01 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] User group meeting
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinbR=q8jOHdZ6DkOnKBhYK4w5OguhwjspR21tXh@mail.gmail.com>
References: <87aakwco01.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinbR=q8jOHdZ6DkOnKBhYK4w5OguhwjspR21tXh@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinwzzj5vtNi1fub+BX1Z=gr8n9Tw0971wZJCj5d@mail.gmail.com>

3am - 5am is a bit unearthly i guess! :-)

On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Baiju M <baiju.m.mail at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Apologies if this is a repeat. My cellphone is not reliable.
>>
>> It's been a few months since the conference is done. We haven't had a
>> User Group meeting in a while. Any takers for sometime mid December?
>
> I wonder doodle will be useful to find a convenient date for everyone:
> http://www.doodle.com/qrw779k2grp8uiqy
>
> Let's try this tool ?
>
> --
> Baiju M
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



-- 
http://hi.im/santosh

From ardsrk at gmail.com  Sat Nov 27 07:04:54 2010
From: ardsrk at gmail.com (Arvind Laxminaryan)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 11:34:54 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] User group meeting
In-Reply-To: <87aakwco01.fsf@gmail.com>
References: <87aakwco01.fsf@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=1aUYXesqyMdv7391SPE0R+JmhUEJwCwvv7ESj@mail.gmail.com>

Too busy trading gems leaving me with no time to charm snakes.

On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Apologies if this is a repeat. My cellphone is not reliable.
>
> It's been a few months since the conference is done. We haven't had a
> User Group meeting in a while. Any takers for sometime mid December?
>
>
>
> --
> ~noufal
> http://nibrahim.net.in
>
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



-- 
Arvind

From rajeev.sebastian at gmail.com  Sat Nov 27 19:26:51 2010
From: rajeev.sebastian at gmail.com (Rajeev J Sebastian)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 23:56:51 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [django] Directory Listing
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=T8Xc39NeEd=PRj5xsYP+H3vZK2D8jEZUp2iym@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimFerm_=R4YBzsO5Mz289Dt+r4dwOSPRHBU7im2@mail.gmail.com>
	<1290683753.2137.195.camel@localhost>
	<AANLkTi=T8Xc39NeEd=PRj5xsYP+H3vZK2D8jEZUp2iym@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=+nSh6YGrBVERYq5vx==Wxpox72WwdyWF4TjYq@mail.gmail.com>

I have used it extensively. In particular to implement the kind of
thing asked in the subject.

However. django-mptt itself doesn't provide any mechanisms to build
taxonomies or categories; it only allows building trees.

I have built a taxonomy app on top of it, which I could possibly share
with you if you want.

Regards
Rajeev J Sebastian

On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Venkatraman S <venkat83 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>wrote:
>
>> django-mptt?
>>
>
>
> I have seen some people rant about it in #django. Have you tried it?
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>

From amit.pureenergy at gmail.com  Sun Nov 28 23:09:05 2010
From: amit.pureenergy at gmail.com (Amit Sethi)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 03:39:05 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] regex euivalent of literal block in Rest Document
	structure
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=hLJe3hNybbVNxX2GK+rZYACzb8RFRgf3-X85v@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Can somebody tell me what is the regex equivalent of literal block of reST.
After a bit of google search.I could get something like
r'::\n\n(\s+.+)+\n' but it does not seem to be right.

-- 
A-M-I-T S|S

From noufal at gmail.com  Mon Nov 29 13:54:25 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 18:24:25 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] User group meeting
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinbR=q8jOHdZ6DkOnKBhYK4w5OguhwjspR21tXh@mail.gmail.com>
	(Baiju M.'s message of "Fri, 26 Nov 2010 18:08:39 +0530")
References: <87aakwco01.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinbR=q8jOHdZ6DkOnKBhYK4w5OguhwjspR21tXh@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87d3poguim.fsf@gmail.com>

On Fri, Nov 26 2010, Baiju M wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Apologies if this is a repeat. My cellphone is not reliable.
>>
>> It's been a few months since the conference is done. We haven't had a
>> User Group meeting in a while. Any takers for sometime mid December?
>
> I wonder doodle will be useful to find a convenient date for everyone:
> http://www.doodle.com/qrw779k2grp8uiqy
>
> Let's try this tool ?

[...]

I think it's nice. Any one who has the time, please update it. 

-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From smrutilekha at gmail.com  Mon Nov 29 09:30:19 2010
From: smrutilekha at gmail.com (Smrutilekha Swain)
Date: 29 Nov 2010 14:00:19 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Light a candle for 26/11 and Show you remember
Message-ID: <BE8FF4636C384F5288C4443F5A6A2DA7.MAI@home>

Hi  bangpypers at python.org ,
 
I just light a candle for 26/11.
It is time to show that we have neither forgiven nor forgotten 26/11.
It is time to remember those who paid with their lives for the fanaticism of
a few, to salute those who gave up their lives trying to shield others, and
to honor those who survived the ordeal of terror.
It is time to light a candle, to show that as we move on, we cherish their
memories, we value their sacrifice and we hail their courage.
 
Please Light a Candle Now at: http://www.indiajaiho.com/LightACandle.htm
 
Warm Regards,
Smrutilekha Swain 




From abpillai at gmail.com  Tue Nov 30 05:07:07 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 09:37:07 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Light a candle for 26/11 and Show you remember
In-Reply-To: <BE8FF4636C384F5288C4443F5A6A2DA7.MAI@home>
References: <BE8FF4636C384F5288C4443F5A6A2DA7.MAI@home>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimB4wR_WbSk8hdS6t1HKEHrfye4gS-dtocZN9Lq@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Smrutilekha Swain <smrutilekha at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi  bangpypers at python.org ,
>
> I just light a candle for 26/11.
> It is time to show that we have neither forgiven nor forgotten 26/11.
> It is time to remember those who paid with their lives for the fanaticism
> of
> a few, to salute those who gave up their lives trying to shield others, and
> to honor those who survived the ordeal of terror.
> It is time to light a candle, to show that as we move on, we cherish their
> memories, we value their sacrifice and we hail their courage.
>
> Please Light a Candle Now at: http://www.indiajaiho.com/LightACandle.htm
>

While appreciating the sentiment which we all share, this is not really the
forum
for sending such emails. This is a professional forum for only Python
language
related discussions only. Please refrain from posting non-topic related
matters here.


> Warm Regards,
> Smrutilekha Swain
>
>
>
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> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>


Regards,

-- 
--Anand

From vrsandeep77 at yahoo.co.in  Tue Nov 30 09:09:13 2010
From: vrsandeep77 at yahoo.co.in (Sandeep Varma)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 13:39:13 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [BangPypers] urgent onsite opening for Python/Zope/Ajax/DHTML
	developers, 2-3 years experience
Message-ID: <366084.63678.qm@web137319.mail.in.yahoo.com>





Subject: urgent onsite opening for Python/Zope/Ajax/DHTML developers, 2-3 years 
experience


Dear group members,
?
This is Sandeep from Carl Zeiss India Ltd.
?
We have a very urgent requirement for the position ofsoftware developer
knowledge of AJAX, XML, DHTML, HTML and PostgressSQL/Oracle, at Carl Zeiss 
India,based at Bangalore
?
We are looking for a person, with 2 to 3 year full time development experience 
in any reputed organization, with excellent communication skills, and a very 
good
attitude and commitment, willing to have a long term association with our 
company.
?
If anyone interested in this opportunity, kindly get in touch with me 
atvrsandeep77 at yahoo.co.in.
?
?
first week of January, 2011.
?
Carl Zeiss is a world leader in Optics and Opto-Electronic products.
For more details on Carl Zeiss, you are requested to check our web sites,We 
prefer candidates who can join us on or before. (with urgent onsite work for 3 
months in Germany). with skills in Python web-UI development, with 
Zope,www.zeiss.co.in
www.zeiss.com
www.zeissmetrology.com
?Thanks & Regards
Sandeep
Carl Zeiss, Bangalore.?
?



From smrutilekha at gmail.com  Tue Nov 30 09:15:11 2010
From: smrutilekha at gmail.com (Smrutilekha Swain)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 13:45:11 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Light a candle for 26/11 and Show you remember
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimB4wR_WbSk8hdS6t1HKEHrfye4gS-dtocZN9Lq@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BE8FF4636C384F5288C4443F5A6A2DA7.MAI@home>
	<AANLkTimB4wR_WbSk8hdS6t1HKEHrfye4gS-dtocZN9Lq@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikRsqFU66tfANyiMVz0Hffv1_31QywJnr0oWVzh@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

i am absolutely sorry for sending this mail to this forum. i did not have
any intention of sending this mail to your forum actually i didnot check the
senders' list before sending it. i realised it today when i saw some of the
mail of this forum. i guaranteed you never in the it will happen again.
sorry for the trouble. sorry again.

From vrsandeep77 at yahoo.co.in  Tue Nov 30 10:12:25 2010
From: vrsandeep77 at yahoo.co.in (Sandeep Varma)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 14:42:25 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [BangPypers] opening for Python/Zope/Ajax/DHTML developers,
	2-3 years experience at Carl Zeiss
Message-ID: <745429.39994.qm@web137308.mail.in.yahoo.com>

Subject: urgent onsite opening for Python/Zope/Ajax/DHTML developers, 2-3 years 
experience

Dear group members,

This is Sandeep from Carl Zeiss India Ltd. 

We have a very urgent requirement for the position of
software developer with skills in Python web-UI development, with Zope,
knowledge of AJAX, XML, DHTML, HTML and PostgressSQL/Oracle, at Carl Zeiss 
India,
based at Bangalore. (with urgent onsite work for 3 months in Germany).

We are looking for a person, with 2 to 3 year full time development experience 
in any reputed organization, with excellent communication skills, and a very 
good
attitude and commitment, willing to have a long term association with our 
company.

If anyone interested in this opportunity, kindly get in touch with me at
vrsandeep77 at yahoo.co.in.

?We prefer candidates who can join us on or before
first week of January, 2011.

Carl Zeiss is a world leader in Optics and Opto-Electronic products.
For more details on Carl Zeiss, you are requested to check our web sites,
www.zeiss.co.in
www.zeiss.com
www.zeissmetrology.com

Thanks & Regards
Sandeep
Carl Zeiss, Bangalore.