[AstroPy] POLL: vision for a common Astronomy package

Matthew Turk matthewturk at gmail.com
Mon Jun 27 19:32:36 EDT 2011


Agreed -- since dependencies are a focus of this vision statement, it
might also be worthwhile to state whether or not modules that are
conditionally compiled (sqlite, ctypes, tkinter, although that is
covered under "GUI" in the statement) in CPython are allowable for
dependencies.

-Matt

On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 4:30 PM, James Turner <jturner at gemini.edu> wrote:
> Just another (perhaps overly-obvious) thought. When you list the
> "Python Standard Library", we probably need to decide what version(s)
> of Python we're targeting (can I depend on a standard library module
> that's only in Python 2.7?). Likewise for the other allowed
> dependencies, otherwise people might depend on conflicting versions
> or something.
>
>
> On 27/06/11 18:51, James Turner wrote:
>> Sounds pretty good, but I'm balking a little bit at NO external
>> dependencies. Obviously we can't have an unmanageable proliferation
>> of them, but having none would seem to imply, for example, that we
>> can't include anything that uses a database -- unless we're going to
>> bundle the whole database into *each* "affiliated package" that needs
>> it. It's no good making that an optional import if the database is
>> central to what the module does. Perhaps one of you can elaborate a
>> bit on what you were thinking here? Are you expecting AstroPy only to
>> include lower-level algorithmic/library functionality? I'd have
>> thought there is also room for library routines that are closer to an
>> application level, which a user can interact with more directly.
>> Maybe I'm looking at this from the wrong angle though (it's quite
>> late here and I haven't thought about it that long yet)? I won't
>> suggest an alternative until I understand better what you had in mind.
>>
>> Yes to calling it AstroPy.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> James.
>>
>>
>> On 27/06/11 16:16, Thomas Robitaille wrote:
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> In the last week, Erik, Perry, and myself have been discussing how
>>> best to coordinate the development of the common Python Astronomy
>>> package. We have now converged on a common vision, and would now like
>>> to know whether you would be happy with it too. The vision and a
>>> poll are available at the following pages:
>>>
>>> vision: http://astropy.wikispaces.com/vision
>>>
>>> poll: http://astropy.wikispaces.com/vision-polls
>>>
>>> In addition, 'astropy' has been suggested by several people as a name
>>> for this common package, so rather than creating a multi-option poll,
>>> we've created a simple yes/no poll to find out whether you would agree
>>> with this name. The idea is to have a name that does not endorse any
>>> specific existing project, is in line with numpy/scipy, and reflects
>>> its initial development via this mailing list. The poll is located at
>>> the same URL as before.
>>>
>>> The polls will be open unti Friday 1st July at 9pm EST.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Thomas
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