From juhasecke at googlemail.com Thu Jul 3 10:45:34 2008 From: juhasecke at googlemail.com (Jan Ulrich Hasecke) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:45:34 +0200 Subject: [python-advocacy] Python Libraries for Engineers Message-ID: Hi, coming from the web development department of the Python Community I would like to know which are the most important libraries or Python projects for engineers. Background of my questrion: One of my clients wants to support Open Source Software if it is suitable for engineers. Thanks! juh -- DZUG e.V. (Deutschsprachige Zope User Group) http://www.zope.de -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: PGP.sig Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 186 bytes Desc: Signierter Teil der Nachricht URL: From nico at tekNico.net Thu Jul 3 11:03:35 2008 From: nico at tekNico.net (Nicola Larosa) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:03:35 +0200 Subject: [python-advocacy] Python Libraries for Engineers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <486C95E7.1000700@tekNico.net> Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote: > coming from the web development department of the Python Community I > would like to know which are the most important libraries or Python > projects for engineers. Well, "for engineers" is a little vague: what kind of engineering? Anyway, here are a few references: Numeric and Scientific http://wiki.python.org/moin/NumericAndScientific Engineering Libraries http://wiki.python.org/moin/EngineeringLibraries Browse - Topic: Scientific/Engineering (see bottom) http://pypi.python.org/pypi?:action=browse&c=385 -- Nicola Larosa - http://www.tekNico.net/ So far, the generations that will follow us, as our planet and our civilization careen over a cliff, are none the wiser. They've bought the propaganda we tell them, and tell ourselves. So far. What will we do, though, when they learn what we've done? And what, as we desperately and ludicrously tried to convince ourselves that we were on the road to sustainability, we failed to do? - Dave Pollard, March 2008 From juhasecke at googlemail.com Thu Jul 3 13:17:08 2008 From: juhasecke at googlemail.com (Jan Ulrich Hasecke) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 13:17:08 +0200 Subject: [python-advocacy] Python Libraries for Engineers In-Reply-To: <486C95E7.1000700@tekNico.net> References: <486C95E7.1000700@tekNico.net> Message-ID: <0AFD8FD6-4198-41A2-9604-ED0CFF266335@googlemail.com> Hi Nicola, thanks for the links. Am 03.07.2008 um 11:03 schrieb Nicola Larosa: > Well, "for engineers" is a little vague: what kind of engineering? Well, these guys who build big machines and factories. juh -- Business: http://hasecke.com --- Private: http://hasecke.eu --- Blog: http://www.sudelbuch.de --- History: www.generationenprojekt.de --- Europe: www.wikitution.org From carl at personnelware.com Thu Jul 3 15:47:02 2008 From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 08:47:02 -0500 Subject: [python-advocacy] Python Libraries for Engineers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <486CD856.60809@personnelware.com> Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote: > Hi, > > coming from the web development department of the Python Community I > would like to know which are the most important libraries or Python > projects for engineers. > > Background of my questrion: One of my clients wants to support Open > Source Software if it is suitable for engineers. > I passed this on to a friend - here is his response: """ This is an interesting question, i use numpy/scipy a lot now, there are other stuff which is important, the viz stuff (vtk) the hdf5 stuff (pytables) and so on. There is a huge problem with using these libraries though, you can't just "share" your code with people. you have huge baggage that you need to carry around. The world of sci computing means hoping from machine to machien to get your job done. If i use python as a soln technique i only really want to use python, not any non-standard libraries. It is the reason we are thinking of moving from python back to something like c/c++ for lots of our work. If you give someone your code and you say, well you have to get these 100 things installed to run this, it makes people not wanna use your stuff. It is bad enough to rely on a standard compiler and having mpi installed. If one is installing a software system for engineers, they could/should roll all their stuff up into an easy to use package to really have it picked up. """ Carl K From Cameron at phaseit.net Thu Jul 3 15:55:59 2008 From: Cameron at phaseit.net (Cameron Laird) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 13:55:59 +0000 Subject: [python-advocacy] Python Libraries for Engineers In-Reply-To: <486CD856.60809@personnelware.com> References: <486CD856.60809@personnelware.com> Message-ID: <20080703135559.GD1783@lairds.us> On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 08:47:02AM -0500, Carl Karsten wrote: . . . > Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote: > >Hi, > > > >coming from the web development department of the Python Community I > >would like to know which are the most important libraries or Python > >projects for engineers. > > > >Background of my questrion: One of my clients wants to support Open > >Source Software if it is suitable for engineers. > > > > I passed this on to a friend - here is his response: > """ > This is an interesting question, i use numpy/scipy a lot now, there are > other stuff which is important, the viz stuff (vtk) the hdf5 stuff > (pytables) and so on. There is a huge problem with using these libraries . . . might be crucial for your client--or utterly irrelevant; 'depends on the kind of engineering he does. From mikeyp at snaplogic.org Fri Jul 4 21:46:39 2008 From: mikeyp at snaplogic.org (Michael Pittaro) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 12:46:39 -0700 Subject: [python-advocacy] Python Libraries for Engineers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <486E7E1F.3050400@snaplogic.org> Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote: > Hi, > > coming from the web development department of the Python Community I > would like to know which are the most important libraries or Python > projects for engineers. > > Background of my questrion: One of my clients wants to support Open > Source Software if it is suitable for engineers. > > Thanks! > juh > > The Enthought Python Distribution (http://www.enthought.com/products/epd.php) bundles a number of the common packages used in scientific computing, and is the closest thing I'm aware of to a reference for an 'engineering' installation. This distribution was announced at PyCon 2008. Another good reference for scientific libraries is the Python Wiki Page at: http://wiki.python.org/moin/NumericAndScientific -- Mike Pittaro Co-Founder Snaplogic, Inc. mikeyp at snaplogic.org http://www.snaplogic.org/developer/mikeyp From andre.roberge at gmail.com Wed Jul 9 01:11:34 2008 From: andre.roberge at gmail.com (Andre Roberge) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 20:11:34 -0300 Subject: [python-advocacy] Fwd: [crunchy-discuss] Croquant: a set of MoinMoin plugins for an integration with Crunchy In-Reply-To: <4873EB54.10702@gmail.com> References: <4873EB54.10702@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7528bcdd0807081611s73586082o75224308c42305c7@mail.gmail.com> Hello everyone, Florian Bir?e (see announcement below) has made a plugin to enable Crunchy syntax on MoinMoin. He has also designed two MoinMoin styles: a simple "Crunchy" one (probably of little interest on this list) and a "Python" one, inspired by the style on wiki.python.org but with improvements (imo); for example, the search bar is in the gray header (like on www.python.org) rather than below it - thereby making a better use of the screen real estate. The new plugin and styles are compatible with the newest version of MoinMoin (1.7.0). An install script has been included which should make its integration with MoinMoin painless. In theory, it should be very easy to replace the current version of MoinMoin used on wiki.python.org by the new version and this plugin. I believe that the new version of MoinMoin uses pygment to do some syntax highlighting, which makes code samples much more readable than the current version used on wiki.python.org. (Note that I realize that it takes a lot of work from volunteers to maintain the python.org site and keep things up to date; my comment is not meant in a negative way.) I am sure that Florian (whom I have cc'ed) would be please to provide any assistance required by interested parties who would like to use the new version ... and the crunchy plugin. :-) Cheers, Andr? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Florian Bir?e Date: Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 7:33 PM Subject: [crunchy-discuss] Croquant: a set of MoinMoin plugins for an integration with Crunchy To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net Cc: crunchy-discuss at googlegroups.com Hello, I proud to announce the 1.0 release of Croquant . Croquant is a set of MoinMoin plugins (currently one parser, three macros and one theme) to allow to use a MoinMoin wiki to write tutorials for Crunchy (). Crunchy is a software which transform a static html tutorial to learn the python language into a dynamic tutorial with the python interpreter embedded inside. With MoinMoin and Croquant, a tutorial can be written in an easy and collaborative way. This is a part of my Google Summer of Code 2008 for Crunchy. All feedback is welcome! Cheers, -- Thesa ~ Florian Bir?e e-mail : florian at biree.name Messagerie Instantan?e Jabber/XMPP/Google Talk : florian.biree at jabber.fr Site web : http://florian.biree.name/ Carnet web : http://filyb.info/ -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc URL: From amk at amk.ca Tue Jul 29 19:45:49 2008 From: amk at amk.ca (A.M. Kuchling) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:45:49 -0400 Subject: [python-advocacy] The 'running a conference' white paper Message-ID: <20080729174549.GA7611@amk-desktop.matrixgroup.net> A passing reference by Catherine reminded me about , a white paper I wrote last year. It's mostly done, though I notice a few unfinished sentences; will fix those... Once it's finished, what do we want to do with it? Will it stay in the wiki? Should I move it out from underneath AdvocacyWritingTasks/? --amk